Duramax Engine Failure - Engine Filled With Deisel due to fuel injector failure = SPUN BEARING

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:25:59 -0400, "Eisboch" <[email protected]>
wrote:

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><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
>> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
>> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.
>>
>
>This is the part where they may be hope for the OP. An argument can
>certainly be made that due to the failure of the injector .... that is
>warrantied for 200k miles .... further engine damage occurred.
>
>Eisboch
>

The term for this is consequential damage. You can be sure there is an
express exclusion to this in the warranty, and hence though ****ed
off, the original poster really has no legal leg to stand on.

Of course that doesn't prevent trying a 'good will' approach (he may
have burned that bridge already, however), or a threat approach ('Hi,
I'm Attorney X, representing Mr. OP, and we're filing a lawsuit…').
The threat approach has virtually no chances of success (for so many
reasons!) and can cost an arm and a leg.

I did get a car maker to replace an engine at 85K miles (was a 3/36
warranty) but it took some really sweet talking, and that was an
unusual case.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:29:12 -0700, "Steve B"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote
>
>> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
>> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
>> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.
>
>Well, lemme ask you this ...............
>
>My outside mirror wouldn't work properly. While driving and messing with it
>at the same time, I clipped a highway marker. I proceeded down the
>embankment, rolled four times, and they are still picking up parts from the
>trailer. The whole shebang is a total loss, but now the mirror works. Go
>figger.
>
>Am I covered, and if not, why not?

Not even for the traffic citation for unsafe driving! <g> In your (I
hope) hypothetical case, you were the one who did something unwise:
you tried to repair your mirror while driving!

"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "David Moffitt" <[email protected]> wrote
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>> %%%% Trade it in at a GMC dealer for another brand of truck.
>
> I have heard that Ford Powerstroke is a great engine.
>
> I didn't say I believe it, just that I heard it.
>
> Steve

%%%% I own a 97 F250HD and have had noting but good luck with it after
300,000 miles.


>
>

"PeterD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:29:12 -0700, "Steve B"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
>>> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
>>> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.
>>
>>Well, lemme ask you this ...............
>>
>>My outside mirror wouldn't work properly. While driving and messing with
>>it
>>at the same time, I clipped a highway marker. I proceeded down the
>>embankment, rolled four times, and they are still picking up parts from
>>the
>>trailer. The whole shebang is a total loss, but now the mirror works. Go
>>figger.
>>
>>Am I covered, and if not, why not?
>
> Not even for the traffic citation for unsafe driving! <g> In your (I
> hope) hypothetical case, you were the one who did something unwise:
> you tried to repair your mirror while driving!


WHOOSH! (the sound of a missile passing over an unoccupied
airspace)..........................

"David Moffitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:ykrZg.1703$BC6.1622@fed1read01...
>>
>> "David Moffitt" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> %%%% Trade it in at a GMC dealer for another brand of truck.
>>
>> I have heard that Ford Powerstroke is a great engine.
>>
>> I didn't say I believe it, just that I heard it.
>>
>> Steve
>
> %%%% I own a 97 F250HD and have had noting but good luck with it after
> 300,000 miles.

Why does "room full of monkeys with typewriters" come to mind?

Steve

In news:48AZg.1727$BC6.392@fed1read01,
Steve B <[email protected]> typed:
>
<snip>
>
> Why does "room full of monkeys with typewriters" come to mind?
>
> Steve

You're reading your own posts?

--
Kevin W. Miller

I offered a suggestion for someone in a boat I wouldn't be in. I personally
buy $1000 or less vehicles, replace every possible rotable item, and run the
crap out of everything I own,for 5 to 10 years. And give them to people in
need, or the scrap collectors on garbage day. I do keep a new Toyota in the
garage , for when all my junks broken and its too cold to fix. Or I,m to
embarrassed to drive my crap into the nice parts of town. Or I,m fixing some
relatives or friends car. However, Repaired to the best of his ability and
traded in to a stealer . I mean dealer. Who makes one dandy of an inspection
, sitting in his chair looking through his window, with a big fat beer
belly, in about 2 minutes, and makes a lowball offer. And a sale. Is not
in any way low life. It's business. Business as defined by government ,
business themselves. And that supply guy in Kelly's Heroes. Its not
illegal. Its good to go... And No poor souls involved.... Business is always
more crooked ass then one individual. Crooked ass is a dealer putting two
head gaskets on one head in a Chevy 350 to sell it because the head cant be
surfaced anymore. And selling it to a customer. AS IS. Crooked ass is
exactly what happened to this guy. Instead of recalling the bad injectors ,
before they trash engines. Let's warranty them for 200,000 miles. Until
almost every GMC Duramax on the road is destroyed. Then do the recall after
our million dollar a year lawyers are done dragging the case out in court
for 10 years. Until all the trucks have destroyed themselves. Because
probably there will be a lawsuit and compensation enforced by a judge to a
crooked ass company. And there wont be anyone left to pay... No different
then leaving 1 layer of cords out of tires,to save bucks. Until they kill
people. Or putting improperly heat treated camshafts in new cars and
denying it for a decade. I don't grab emails on public unencrypted WIFI
either. I don't think its wrong either. Reality bites . This is a real
world solution. If you cant handle the reality. Go off to oblivious land
somewhere else.
"Colton Motor Express #6 Here!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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none2u wrote:
> If I was in this boat, with the loan and apparently needing a truck now...
> I,d replace the crank bearings, or rod bearings , the injector or
> injectors
> which failed. The oil pump. Hopefully everything through the oil pan.
> Whatever is necessary to get it to run right,for at least a month. Change
> the oil. Find a truck to buy. Detail the truck. Drive straight to the
> dealer and trade it in. I have to believe a 2001 gmc duramax trade in is
> more then 10 grand he owes. Don't know what the parts cost , but if I
> could
> get into another vehicle for a few grand out of pocket,in bearings ,
> injectors and an oil pump. and the trade in is above the loan. I,d be
> real happy.

WHOA! 02u, What a low-livin thing to suggest an honest man to do;
Pass this piece of **** off on to some other poor soul. That's
probably what had happened to OP. <g>

Wait til Will, Lon, Lz, Frank, Carl A. and the rest of the anti-WIFI
stealing group get done with you...

I mean these guys go ballistic when someone 'grabs' a free email check
on an open WIFI.
An their 'mean as hell' too!

This is BIG-TIME crooked-ass stuff you are suggesting compared to
copping a free WIFI. You better get ready for the attack, these guys
just won't stand for this stuff being posted here on RORT!! Good
Luck.. <g> -gar

"I don't care who you are, thats funny!" LTCG

?? ...BE HAPPY... ?? .. DON'T HURRY ... ??
http://coltonmotorexpress.blogspot.com/
79 Georgie Boy 33' Motor Home
81 MBZ 300td turbo stick shift [Tow-Car]
just can't call my ol Mercedes a 'toad' -gar




-gar

"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "David Moffitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:ykrZg.1703$BC6.1622@fed1read01...
>>>
>>> "David Moffitt" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>>> %%%% Trade it in at a GMC dealer for another brand of truck.
>>>
>>> I have heard that Ford Powerstroke is a great engine.
>>>
>>> I didn't say I believe it, just that I heard it.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> %%%% I own a 97 F250HD and have had nothing but good luck with it after
>> 300,000 miles.
>
> Why does "room full of monkeys with typewriters" come to mind?
>
> Steve

%%%% Because you rode the short bus maybe?

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:00:25 -0700, "Steve B"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"PeterD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:29:12 -0700, "Steve B"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>>> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
>>>> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
>>>> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.
>>>
>>>Well, lemme ask you this ...............
>>>
>>>My outside mirror wouldn't work properly. While driving and messing with
>>>it
>>>at the same time, I clipped a highway marker. I proceeded down the
>>>embankment, rolled four times, and they are still picking up parts from
>>>the
>>>trailer. The whole shebang is a total loss, but now the mirror works. Go
>>>figger.
>>>
>>>Am I covered, and if not, why not?
>>
>> Not even for the traffic citation for unsafe driving! <g> In your (I
>> hope) hypothetical case, you were the one who did something unwise:
>> you tried to repair your mirror while driving!
>
>
>WHOOSH! (the sound of a missile passing over an unoccupied
>airspace)..........................
>

You fired a missle, while trying to fix your mirror, while driving? No
wonder you had that terrible accident.

(note the <g> in my original post...)

===================
none2u wrote:
> I offered a suggestion for someone in a boat I wouldn't be in.
<sinp>
Reality bites . This is a real
> world solution. If you cant handle the reality. Go off to oblivious land
> somewhere else.
-------------------------

WOW! Now I get what 'None2u' really means. Your 'reality' really
sucks... I've had a
piece of it a few times, Never changed my principles and passed on my
misfortune on to
someone else because 'I got screwed' [did business with a guy like
you]. I got redress or 'ate it' and learned from my misfortune.

You fail to mention that because of your solution, [putting a Band-Aid
on this engine and trading it to a dealer] some other poor S.O.B. is
now going to have to go through all the pain and suffering OP is going
through.

Only it won't be a spun bearing this time, it will be his injection
pump, valve guides,
scored cylinders etc. Total engine failure. 2,000 Miles from home!!


Where does it end?

The right thing for OP to do is get redress or eat it. Most here
believe
he can get redress if he uses some common sense. Even to the extent of
getting paid for
his angst, or whatever you call it.

Hey GM doesn't want to have this big time on public TV. A good
attorney and him keeping his mouth shut will get him complete ++
payback in full. -gar

♫♪ ...BE HAPPY... ♫♪ .. DON'T HURRY ... ♫♪
http://coltonmotorexpress.blogspot.com/
79 Georgie Boy 33' Motor Home
81 MBZ 300td turbo stick shift [Tow-Car]
just can't call my ol Mercedes a 'toad' -gar

Colton Motor Express #6 Here! wrote:

>===================
>none2u wrote:
>
>
>>I offered a suggestion for someone in a boat I wouldn't be in.
>>
>>
><sinp>
> Reality bites . This is a real
>
>
>>world solution. If you cant handle the reality. Go off to oblivious land
>>somewhere else.
>>
>>
>-------------------------
>
>WOW! Now I get what 'None2u' really means. Your 'reality' really
>sucks... I've had a
>piece of it a few times, Never changed my principles and passed on my
>misfortune on to
>someone else because 'I got screwed' [did business with a guy like
>you]. I got redress or 'ate it' and learned from my misfortune.
>
>You fail to mention that because of your solution, [putting a Band-Aid
>on this engine and trading it to a dealer] some other poor S.O.B. is
>now going to have to go through all the pain and suffering OP is going
>through.
>
>Only it won't be a spun bearing this time, it will be his injection
>pump, valve guides,
>scored cylinders etc. Total engine failure. 2,000 Miles from home!!
>
>
> Where does it end?
>
> The right thing for OP to do is get redress or eat it. Most here
>believe
>he can get redress if he uses some common sense. Even to the extent of
>getting paid for
>his angst, or whatever you call it.
>
>Hey GM doesn't want to have this big time on public TV. A good
>attorney and him keeping his mouth shut will get him complete ++
>payback in full. -gar
>
>♫♪ ...BE HAPPY... ♫♪ .. DON'T HURRY ... ♫♪
>http://coltonmotorexpress.blogspot.com/
>79 Georgie Boy 33' Motor Home
>81 MBZ 300td turbo stick shift [Tow-Car]
> just can't call my ol Mercedes a 'toad' -gar
>
>
>
I am beginning to appreciate my decision to get the Cumins engine
because of the proven history
over the no history of the Duromax.

--


BILL P.
Just
Me
&
DOG

"William Boyd" <[email protected]> wrote

>>
> I am beginning to appreciate my decision to get the Cumins engine because
> of the proven history
> over the no history of the Duromax.
>
> --
>
>
> BILL P.
> Just
> Me
> &
> DOG

My interest is now piqued. I know that the Cummings engine is a variant of
the Cummins. DUH!

But now, is the Cumins yet another variation?

Steve ;-)

Steve B wrote:
> My interest is now piqued. I know that the Cummings engine is a variant of
> the Cummins. DUH!
>
> But now, is the Cumins yet another variation?

The Cumin is. It's made to run on biodiesel -- and not just any
biodiesel, but specifically refined from this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumin

Steve B wrote:

>"William Boyd" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>
>>I am beginning to appreciate my decision to get the Cumins engine because
>>of the proven history
>>over the no history of the Duromax.
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>BILL P.
>>Just
>>Me
>>&
>>DOG
>>
>>
>
>My interest is now piqued. I know that the Cummings engine is a variant of
>the Cummins. DUH!
>
>But now, is the Cumins yet another variation?
>
>Steve ;-)
>
>
>
>
Yes it is actually a Cumins diesel, but unfortunately not the Cummins
that is in the Dodge. I have no idea why they
spell it differently.
http://jialian.en.alibaba.com/produ...l_generator_set/Cumins_Diesel_Generators.html

--


BILL P.
Just
Me
&
DOG

"Rick Onanian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:CZSZg.397$uF.312@dukeread12...
> Steve B wrote:
>> My interest is now piqued. I know that the Cummings engine is a variant
>> of the Cummins. DUH!
>>
>> But now, is the Cumins yet another variation?
>
> The Cumin is. It's made to run on biodiesel -- and not just any biodiesel,
> but specifically refined from this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumin

Wouldn't that make it smell like tamales instead of fried chicken and French
fries?

Steve

"William Boyd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve B wrote:
>
>>"William Boyd" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>
>>>I am beginning to appreciate my decision to get the Cumins engine because
>>>of the proven history
>>>over the no history of the Duromax.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>
>>>BILL P.
>>>Just
>>>Me
>>>&
>>>DOG
>>>
>>
>>My interest is now piqued. I know that the Cummings engine is a variant
>>of the Cummins. DUH!
>>
>>But now, is the Cumins yet another variation?
>>
>>Steve ;-)
>>
>>
> Yes it is actually a Cumins diesel, but unfortunately not the Cummins that
> is in the Dodge. I have no idea why they
> spell it differently.
> http://jialian.en.alibaba.com/produ...l_generator_set/Cumins_Diesel_Generators.html
>
> --
>
>
> BILL P.
> Just
> Me
> &
> DOG

Just wondering. We have so many flippin morons around here insistent on
correct spelling and grammar.

Then they post stupid things in they're own posts!

Go figger. ;-)

Steve

Steve B wrote:
> Just wondering. We have so many flippin morons around here insistent on
> correct spelling and grammar.
>
> Then they post stupid things in they're own posts!
>
> Go figger. ;-)

You're bitching about grammar...and you write "they're own posts"?

"none2u" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I was in this boat, with the loan and apparently needing a truck now...
> I,d replace the crank bearings, or rod bearings , the injector or
injectors
> which failed. The oil pump. Hopefully everything through the oil pan.
> Whatever is necessary to get it to run right,for at least a month. Change
> the oil. Find a truck to buy. Detail the truck. Drive straight to the
> dealer and trade it in. I have to believe a 2001 gmc duramax trade in is
> more then 10 grand he owes. Don't know what the parts cost , but if I
could
> get into another vehicle for a few grand out of pocket,in bearings ,
> injectors and an oil pump. and the trade in is above the loan. I,d be
> real happy.

so you think its ok to stuff someone else?

Whitelightning

"Rick Onanian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:84UZg.401$uF.120@dukeread12...
> Steve B wrote:
>> Just wondering. We have so many flippin morons around here insistent on
>> correct spelling and grammar.
>>
>> Then they post stupid things in they're own posts!
>>
>> Go figger. ;-)
>
> You're bitching about grammar...and you write "they're own posts"?

Apparently you're humor impaired.

Did you not see the ;-) at the end of the post?

If I ever get your/you're and their/they're confused, you have permission to
immediately shoot me.

Steve

In article <84UZg.401$uF.120@dukeread12>,
Rick Onanian <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve B wrote:
> > Just wondering. We have so many flippin morons around here insistent on
> > correct spelling and grammar.
> >
> > Then they post stupid things in they're own posts!
> >
> > Go figger. ;-)
>
> You're bitching about grammar...and you write "they're own posts"?

Reminds me of a NG flame war when I posted:

'Your talking bollocks'

to be met by the reply:

'Yes, and now I'm teaching them to sing'

I don't fall for that one again!

Molesworth