Dumped autobox oil

roccotune · Apr 27, 2014

Hi guys,

My dad was driving the p38 at about 50 when a damaged cooler pipe decided to spew all the ATF all over the road. He tell me it lost drive and he pulled over swiftly.

There was a puddle under the car when it stopped so not totally empty. Had it recovered home safely.

So I ordered new pipes and have new cooler but what do you rate the chances that the autobox will be ok??

P38Penguin · Apr 27, 2014

If he pulled over quickly then chances are it should be ok. Then only real test is to fill her up and give it a try.

mick

roccotune · Apr 27, 2014

P38Penguin said:
If he pulled over quickly then chances are it should be ok. Then only real test is to fill her up and give it a try.

mick

This is what I'm hoping! The trail was only about 100-200 ft long as you could see it in the wet road.

Fingers crossed

Druim · Apr 28, 2014

ATF burns really well - could been much worse spraying on exhaust

Johnny Fart Pants · Apr 28, 2014

Should be fine, the 'losing drive' thing is the fail safe. There is a pressure switch which if not 'made' effectively takes the box out of gear. The only damage that might occurr would be if you shorted out the pressure switch and forced the gearbox to drive without oil. Also, heaps of oil will still be in box, the pick up for the pump is quite high (even though the filter is in the bottom of the sump),

ovalandrover · Apr 28, 2014

when you get the new pipes make sure there is no strain on the short flexible one as that is probably where it went.
I personally have had new one made up by ENZED or someone similar they are much stronger pipes and might cost about the same.

wammers · Apr 28, 2014

Johnny Fart Pants said:
Should be fine, the 'losing drive' thing is the fail safe. There is a pressure switch which if not 'made' effectively takes the box out of gear. The only damage that might occurr would be if you shorted out the pressure switch and forced the gearbox to drive without oil. Also, heaps of oil will still be in box, the pick up for the pump is quite high (even though the filter is in the bottom of the sump),

The box can't provide drive without oil it is impossible.

Datatek · Apr 28, 2014

wammers said:
The box can't provide drive without oil it is impossible.

The Fart Pants bloke is an idiot Tony

roccotune · Apr 28, 2014

Thanks all, will update you in a few days when back together and "working" sounds positive at any rate!

Johnny Fart Pants · Apr 28, 2014

Datatek said:
The Fart Pants bloke is an idiot Tony

Thanks Tony, can always count on you for the low blow.. I didn't say it would drive without oil. I said damage would occur if the pressure switch were shorted out. You barrack room lawyers can give it out but you certainly can't take it

Saint.V8 · Apr 29, 2014

Johnny Fart Pants said:
Thanks Tony, can always count on you for the low blow.. I didn't say it would drive without oil. I said damage would occur if the pressure switch were shorted out. You barrack room lawyers can give it out but you certainly can't take it

(his name isn't Tony!!

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Johnny Fart Pants · Apr 29, 2014

Tony, Keith? Whatever the name? Its all the same, dare to disagree with a 'Senior' member and you get personal insults. What is a forum for? To increase your number of posts quicker by using sarcastic 'one liners' to people with less experience? If so, then Datatek is a king!
This goes back a few years but the 'king' get very upset with me because I asked for some instructions with my EAS unlock cable. This is just him trying to get even. Insult is the first resort of the intellectually challenged!

Thor1950 · Apr 29, 2014

Johnny Fart Pants said:
Tony, Keith? Whatever the name? Its all the same, dare to disagree with a 'Senior' member and you get personal insults. What is a forum for? To increase your number of posts quicker by using sarcastic 'one liners' to people with less experience? If so, then Datatek is a king!
This goes back a few years but the 'king' get very upset with me because I asked for some instructions with my EAS unlock cable. This is just him trying to get even. Insult is the first resort of the intellectually challenged!

Nothing about disagreeing with senior members. It is the junior member is WRONG..:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Johnny Fart Pants · Apr 29, 2014

Read the post. I said the gearbox won't be damaged because it has a failsafe in the form of a pressure switch. I didn't say it could run without oil. Get a grip guys!

wammers · Apr 29, 2014

Johnny Fart Pants said:
Read the post. I said the gearbox won't be damaged because it has a failsafe in the form of a pressure switch. I didn't say it could run without oil. Get a grip guys!

No fail safe pressure switch that i am aware of. Run the engine with no oil in the box and you will knacker the oil pump.

Datatek · Apr 29, 2014

wammers said:
No fail safe pressure switch that i am aware of. Run the engine with no oil in the box and you will knacker the oil pump.

Or even coast with the engine off for any distance and the gearbox may be knackered.

Saint.V8 · Apr 29, 2014

Have to say I have never seen a pressure switch in the 'box hydraulic circuit...maybe JM or Bemble could confirm...certainly not shown in RAVE.

There is a Pressure Regulating Solenoid which reduces hydraulic pressure on the clutch packs during gear selection changes to prevent sudden clutch engagement...which if the Solenoid fails, shifting is limited to third and forth only...but it is not a pressure sensor or pressure switch.

sassanach · Apr 29, 2014

Johnny Fart Pants said:
Tony, Keith? Whatever the name? Its all the same, dare to disagree with a 'Senior' member and you get personal insults. What is a forum for? To increase your number of posts quicker by using sarcastic 'one liners' to people with less experience? If so, then Datatek is a king!
This goes back a few years but the 'king' get very upset with me because I asked for some instructions with my EAS unlock cable. This is just him trying to get even. Insult is the first resort of the intellectually challenged!

get your butt over to "anything goes":violin::lol::your_wrong:

wammers · Apr 29, 2014

Saint.V8 said:
Have to say I have never seen a pressure switch in the 'box hydraulic circuit...maybe JM or Bemble could confirm...certainly not shown in RAVE.

There is a Pressure Regulating Solenoid which reduces hydraulic pressure on the clutch packs during gear selection changes to prevent sudden clutch engagement...which if the Solenoid fails, shifting is limited to third and forth only...but it is not a pressure sensor or pressure switch.

There is no failsafe pressure switch. Is that good enough?

Saint.V8 · Apr 29, 2014

wammers said:
There is no failsafe pressure switch. Is that good enough?

For me, Tony - Yes...I concur, there is no Pressure Switch, no failsafe switch etc...as I said above!

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