Discovery Rust - Boot, Sills and Wings

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Hi Matt.

Yep you're right. I have started to dislike it tremendously since the front was done. Up for it this week? Cant mess with the standard tank though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND I have tested out the winch too. Cable looks nice and neat now its spooled on correctly. Hardly takes up any space on the drum. Wander lead and remote work fine.
 
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OK so following the fact that I was wrong about the bumper on the GreenHornet, I (with the help of MattBaxter) spent this afternoon and changed it.

Firstly the chassis was getting in the way of a tidy look so that had to go.

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Secondly the long wings made the bumper look long, so they had to go as well.

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Then we took a piece of RHS box section and welded that on the end of the chassis. I love using Matts welder its just brilliant (Xcaliber 200 amp) On top of this I welded angle to to mount the bumper too.

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Then to hide the body mounts we added some small sections which in turn act as locating points for M12 studs on the underside of the bumper.

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So the bumper sits on top of the RHS support and is fixed by two number M12 bolts going into angle brackets PLUS the bumper has two M12 studs which go down into the support wings. All in all it is secured extremely well and whilst messing around I managed to split some 4x2 of the back of it and all it did was ring like a bell. Hard Core testing :violent:

So the final look is here

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Plus we have worked out that a standard Bumper Trim will be able to fit it so Im off to find one tomorrow.

Finally I also took the opportunity to finish welding the sliders up to the RHS sills. Just a paint all round and some anti slip paint and we are done.
 
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Thanks guys......

Must admit it made the disco have a better stance. I will take some photos in the morning as it was just too dark by the time we finished.
 
Awesome!

Disappointed to see no beverages dotted around the workshop there, what kind of folk are you guys?!?! :p

Urm, regards bumper trim, do you mean the top strip, kinda striped one?

I left mine off because I devised that it was a mud trap, so if rather wash it out than let it rot my new crossmember!
 
There are drinks around, I had a Doctor Pepper and Matt was on Ginger Beer - seriously......

Yeah Sam that's the one. I didn't realise that it was the culprit causing the rot though. But if its easier to remove and clean out then it should be ok surely. Just need something to tidy the arse end up.

Trailing arm bushes to fit next with cranked arms. Hopefully this week!
 
Yeah im sure you can make it removeable, just use screws instead of those plastic fasteners then it a 2 minute job to remove!

I know it is extra expense but i would much prefer a Peter Petrakiev cardboard templated style piece of ally chequerplate, completely covering the whole of the top of the bumper and crossmember areas, both a VERY tidy solution and a nice safe grippy walkaround step for the back of the car.

It is of utmost importance to be able to be stuck in deep ****, step out of the door onto your sliders, then walk backwards, onto the tyre and still cautiously grabbing onto the roof gutter step onto your back bumper and around the back of the car, just like carefully making your way around the gunwale on a boat, the principle being that you dont have to go in the drink to get round the back of the vessel :D

i would find a nice piece of plate most suitable for this purpose :)
 
Hang on a minute, you walk around the vehicle KEEPING OUT OF THE WATER..... You need bigger puddles lol.

Seriously though, I get what you are saying and agree with you. I tried my old broken trim on it tonight and it looked a treat but black chequer plate may happen.........
 
As promised here is a side view of the new bumper profile.

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It looks a lot better and just needs the ends sorting out but I cant decide what to do with them.

AND yes the exhaust is now seeking attention too............................
 
CAUTION: Making alterations to your suspension may cause serious injury as you are off roading in your homebuilt, home modified vehicle, climbing steep slopes and wading in deep water.

Rear Trailing Arms.

Right before you all start - Yes you can buy them, yes there are more beefy items available and yes there is a risk welding suspension components yourself. However, who's to say that what you buy isn't welded buy a trainee or a guy in a garage.

Tonight I wanted to replace my badly deteriorated trailing arm bushes. I have recently noticed that the vehicle is very poor at keeping in a straight line Plus it has a tendency to feel like the arse end is sliding around. On closer inspection the trailing arm to chassis bushes are totally shot.

Its really easy to swop them out and all it entails is removing teh trailing arm. So I undid the three bolts holding the bush to the chassis, then loosened the large nut on the end of the 'chassis end' of the trailing arm, followed by loosening the bolt at the axle. everything cam away really easily to reveal a complete mess.

This is the nearside bush and arm, you can clearly see that the bush had broken in two. The new unit is in the foreground.

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This is the offside unit prior to removing it from the arm.

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Now the reason its peeled away is due to the suspension lift. As the vehicle is lifted, the standard arms put the bush under stress even when the vehicle is stood still because the std trailing arm is effectively being pulled down. Lifting the vehicle is moving the axle in its articulation plane.

I have +5" shocks on the rear with Terrafirma Shock mounts which, when you add it the +3" springs give the rear axle a huge amount of articulation over standard.

So I thought to myself, well I'm here now how about cranking my arms. So that's what i did.

The standard arms are tubular and designed to cope with normal life which they do quite well. I have never heard of one snapping or bending which wasnt, at the time, being abused off road. So to start with they are strong items. (Heavy Duty Ones excepted).

Firstly I made two cuts in identical places on both arms. This I did with a 1mm cutting disc and went 75% through the arm. These cuts produced a small crank but not enough so I cut again in the same place. This produced a reasonable crank which once offered up to the axle was sitting quite nicely with no stress on the new bush.

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Here you can see a std arm against the cranked item.

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I then cleaned up the areas to be welded and made a significant goove along the cutting edge with a grinding disc so I could ensure that proper penetration was made. Once the first weld run was made I cleaned up around the areas and ran another seam of weld along both sides of teh first weld run.

The Trailing Arm become some 3-4mm shorter by doing this modification. As a result i used the large disc from the original bush as a spacer. You can see the gap here.

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Obviously the arms are just sat in their place and not bolted up in the above picture.

Once fitted you can see that the bush is not under any stress and the crank needed is only small.

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I will run these like this for a few days and then pull them off and reinforce them using angle which also acts as rock sliders on the arms. (This is typical sales talk as the only reason you need the angle in the first place is because the standard arms need reinforcing to cope with proper off road abuse).

A quick run down the road and the handling is much improved.
 
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lol i did my bushes yesterday same state, however onlt 2" lift..i had thought about this but will admit not the same way, id thought abought getting some solid bar, welding the two ends on and cranking it at either end like a slight z if that makes sense.
 
Hi Ian :)

Nice work these past few days :)

Yeah, I am disappointed to admit that it is just not as wet Up Norf as it is down your way, despite the fact it never stops raining in sunny Manchester it obviously drains rapid too because it is so used to it :rolleyes:

Have you considered lengthening your arms to compensate for the lift?

Check this by popping your springs out then lowering the chassis again on the jack to its normal rest height and check if your springs seats are dead horizontal.

If they lean back at all you could do with lengthening the arms, but watch for your prop or make/buy a prop spacer :)
 
Good note Noisy,

It's the reason I put the spacer in. I have another set of arms that I will spend more time on if these work for me.

Yeah it's been raining quite hard here but today we had a break in the weather. Can't wait to get out.

Just got to tart the last few bits up and then I can start the cosmetics and start all over again lol......

Next on the list is

Rebuild front diff with new input bearings
Plug and paint sliders
Complete rear bumper edges and trim
Radius arms and bushes
Steering damper replacement
Aux equipment
Lift jack location and mounts - oh plus spare wheel lol

Should be done then
 
lol i did my bushes yesterday same state, however onlt 2" lift..i had thought about this but will admit not the same way, id thought abought getting some solid bar, welding the two ends on and cranking it at either end like a slight z if that makes sense.

This is similar to my initial thoughts - double cranked its called. Helps with the arms binding against the axle bracket, however I will probably relieve the metal in that area initially. Testing will be tomorrow and I will see if I can break them.
 
Good luck Ian :)

Yeah I'm about 3 years in so have tackled most of the work now, just pleasuring myself fitting new parts for the sake of it or adding stuff due to need, plus a couple repairs but in fairness not much.

It's quite interesting actually how these trucks build more through requirement than desire, for instance mine has a lot of kit fitted but it started out standard and everything has been fitted to serve a purpose or cure/prevent a problem.

Handy handy :)
 
Good luck Ian :)

Yeah I'm about 3 years in so have tackled most of the work now, just pleasuring myself fitting new parts for the sake of it or adding stuff due to need, plus a couple repairs but in fairness not much.

It's quite interesting actually how these trucks build more through requirement than desire, for instance mine has a lot of kit fitted but it started out standard and everything has been fitted to serve a purpose or cure/prevent a problem.

Handy handy :)

Its a shame the more common mods were/are not just built in as stock... many wouldn't cost a hole lot more to do from start. I like the arms mod tho... if I didnt plan to make a set of rear arms I would of tried this for sure!
 
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