Diagnostic tools

beerdude · Nov 13, 2013

Afternoon all, I am considering buying a diagnostic tool and I'm wondering if any of you have any experience of using the Snap On Solus Pro or Ultra on Land Rover products in general and Discovery one and two in particular, and how it stacks up against the specialist Land Rover tools.

Kev

thebiglad · Nov 13, 2013

beerdude said:
Afternoon all, I am considering buying a diagnostic tool and I'm wondering if any of you have any experience of using the Snap On Solus Pro or Ultra on Land Rover products in general and Discovery one and two in particular, and how it stacks up against the specialist Land Rover tools.

Kev

Hi Kev I'm not familiar with the tools you mention but I can pretty-much gttee anything other that Hawkeye or Nan EVO will be no good on LR Discovery.

The generic tools are sometimes OK on engine codes,particularly petrol engine codes, but pretty-much useless on anything else - no access to BCU/SLABS/EATS etc.

Discovery I is not OBD compliant plus the manual gearbox cars have no engine ECU to play with.

I'm not 100% sure but I think I'm right in saying that all LR products are non OBD compliant until 2005.

Some code readers work a bit with DII but nothing apart from dedicated LR stuff is as good as Hawkeye or Nano EVO.

Dave

HenryD · Nov 13, 2013

I have a Solus pro and while it will read some of the systems on the D2 its not so good as a Hawkeye/nanocom on these vehicles,I have the Solus as it covers most makes of vehicle for my work

listerdiesel · Nov 13, 2013

Hawkeye works on our 1999 D2 OK, and some D1 stuff is OBDII compliant, I think around 97/98 or so.

Peter

thebiglad · Nov 13, 2013

You may find this interesting:

https://www.scantool.net/support/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=2&nav=0

Just because it has a socket does not mean it is OBD compliant.

Dave

beerdude · Nov 13, 2013

Thanks people, I have successfully used a Solus Pro (on 13.4 software) on a 95 d1 abs but not on a d2 yet, I too work on other makes but mostly Land Rover.
HenryD Thanks for your input, what sorftware is your Solus on?

Kev

adaptorman · Nov 13, 2013

I use autoco, 2013 version dose everything on d2 apart from airsuspention , also dose everything on the d3/d4 at a very good price on evilbay around 100/130 as well as tones of other vechicals and in depth codeing ,, best too ive ever bought tbh

beerdude · Nov 13, 2013

Wow I'll be looking at those too now.

HenryD · Nov 13, 2013

beerdude said:
Thanks people, I have successfully used a Solus Pro (on 13.4 software) on a 95 d1 abs but not on a d2 yet, I too work on other makes but mostly Land Rover.
HenryD Thanks for your input, what sorftware is your Solus on?

Kev

I pay the monthly subs,it was updated a couple of week ago,I think its 13:4 now.

HenryD · Nov 13, 2013

adaptorman said:
I use autoco, 2013 version dose everything on d2 apart from airsuspention , also dose everything on the d3/d4 at a very good price on evilbay around 100/130 as well as tones of other vechicals and in depth codeing ,, best too ive ever bought tbh

The Solus will do engine/gearbox and slabs ecu's ok,even does sls calibration which surprised me a little.

LeaUK · Nov 14, 2013

Even my garage's vast array or diagnostic doesn't read all modules, most will read modules to include SLABS but the ACE proved allusive. What I've read here are nancom and hawkeye are the readers of choice for LR

Lea

ratty · Nov 14, 2013

I've owned and used snapon ethos, solus pro and modus's on the majority of land rover products and whilst they can all read and delete codes and are quicker/easier to scan live data, I still rely on my nanocom original for my td5 defender especially for programming or changing settings.

beerdude · Nov 15, 2013

ratty said:
I've owned and used snapon ethos, solus pro and modus's on the majority of land rover products and whilst they can all read and delete codes and are quicker/easier to scan live data, I still rely on my nanocom original for my td5 defender especially for programming or changing settings.

I'm mainly into td5 d2's and series 1 discos so maybe the its the Solus. What will the Nanocom cover that the solus won't?
Kev

ratty · Nov 15, 2013

beerdude said:
I'm mainly into td5 d2's and series 1 discos so maybe the its the Solus. What will the Nanocom cover that the solus won't?
Kev

You can test and programme alarm/immobiliser functions, read and write EKA codes, programme injectors, change suspension from air to springs or vice versa, activate pressure bleeding of the brake system. Etc.

I have my nanocom mounted in my landy when driving and keep it in instrument mode. It shows boost pressure, battery voltage, rpm and coolant temp.

beerdude · Nov 16, 2013

ratty said:
You can test and programme alarm/immobiliser functions, read and write EKA codes, programme injectors, change suspension from air to springs or vice versa, activate pressure bleeding of the brake system. Etc.

I have my nanocom mounted in my landy when driving and keep it in instrument mode. It shows boost pressure, battery voltage, rpm and coolant temp.

So is the Nanocom better than the Hawkeye or is it personal preference?

ratty · Nov 17, 2013

beerdude said:
So is the Nanocom better than the Hawkeye or is it personal preference?

I've not had any dealings with hawkeye or the nanocom evo but from what I've heard from others it's more a case of personal preference. I can program secondhand keyfobs with my nanocom original but I believe the hawkeye requires the fobs bar code to do this.

beerdude · Nov 17, 2013

Is that d1 or d2 key fobs?

thebiglad · Nov 17, 2013

beerdude said:
So is the Nanocom better than the Hawkeye or is it personal preference?

I had a Hawkeye when there were supply and after-service problems with Nanocom, but if I were buying again I would definitely buy a Nano EVO.

It is much closer to a real LR diagnostic than Hawkeye and has more programming power.

They are both about £300 so I would buy Nano EVO.

sierrafery · Nov 17, 2013

It is much closer to a real LR diagnostic than Hawkeye and has more programming power

I hate to contradict you Dave(especially for the bolded part) but IMO it's exactly the other way around...Hawkeye is made by Omitec with the Testbook T4 original protocol just that it misses some features as old key reprogramming and suspension calibration, but the systems it covers are covered with 100% accuracy... while the EVO is a clone with an addapted protocol and has lots of communication problems and software issues especially with ACE(where it's totally unreliable) and BCU where it used to alter settings on it's own...to not speak about failures with SLABS ECU communication.

I have them both and made many tests...i dont want to blame neither of them as both have (+)es and (-)-es but i use the EVO just for live data as here is above Hawkeye cos it can save the data and it can be downloaded and read as a sheet which is more relevant some times

as said it's a matter of choice and both are good, i just wanted to share my experience with them

beerdude · Nov 17, 2013

Any one know who would be the best supplier of either the Hawkeye or Nano? I'm guessing they can both be unlocked to other Land Rover Models.
Kev

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