Defender without paperwork

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

Good morning

I’ve been offered a Land Rover Defender without any paperwork, will I be able to apply for a log book ? If the Vin plate is missing can I use the number from the Chassis and engine number ?

Thank you

lightning · Jun 24, 2018

Why is there no history or VIN. Is it stolen recovered?

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

lightning said:
Why is there no history or VIN. Is it stolen recovered?

Being sold as parts only, it’s from a company, it could be a customer who never paid their bill, I will do some more investigating
Thanks

flat · Jun 24, 2018

Wow.

No paperwork, no vin plate and your thinking of buying?

That could come back and bite you in a very bad way.

There is literally no reason not to have paperwork or vin plate. The seller can request new paperwork and vin doesn’t ever need to be removed In any normal situation.....

Walk away.

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

It’s a bit strange, could I buy it and put the body on a chassis with paperwork ?

flat · Jun 24, 2018

robert beddard said:
It’s a bit strange, could I buy it and put the body on a chassis with paperwork ?

I *think* so as the chassis is the bit that has the identity, so you would use the reg plate from the chassis, not the donor body

neilly · Jun 24, 2018

There in lies the question of where do you find a chassis that is in good condition but needs a new body?

Cheers

ER1C · Jun 24, 2018

flat said:
There is literally no reason not to have paperwork or vin plate. The seller can request new paperwork and vin doesn’t ever need to be removed In any normal situation.....

My VIN plate fell off.... as it corroded at the rivets when I was leaning over once it just came away.

neilly · Jun 24, 2018

ER1C said:
My VIN plate fell off.... as it corroded at the rivets when I was leaning over once it just came away.

OK, but I would hope you kept it safe somewhere.

Cheers

ER1C · Jun 24, 2018

neilly said:
OK, but I would hope you kept it safe somewhere.

Cheers

I did, and now I moved its in one of my storage boxes somewhere, along with half my stuff..

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

It’s a camper body, so it maybe a quicker way to do a camper conversion,

neilly · Jun 24, 2018

If you can get it cheap enough then maybe breaking it for spares is the way to go.
Keep the camper conversion parts and swap them onto a good chassis, and then sell on the std body parts when removed.

Cheers

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

neilly said:
There in lies the question of where do you find a chassis that is in good condition but needs a new body?

Cheers

I was thinking looking for an unfinished project that’s got a galvanised chassis,

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

neilly said:
If you can get it cheap enough then maybe breaking it for spares is the way to go.
Keep the camper conversion parts and swap them onto a good chassis, and then sell on the std body parts when removed.

Cheers

Thanks, sounds the way to go

neilly · Jun 24, 2018

robert beddard said:
Thanks, sounds the way to go

Sounds expensive though......and a lot of work. post some pics when doing it.

Cheers

Kwakerman · Jun 24, 2018

If you go for it make sure you get a receipt from the vendor stating exactly what you are buying and stating chassis / paperwork not available. Also get the receipt to include engine number and both gearboxes numbers, could even try and get some photos added to the receipt (or signed as a true likeness of what he is selling). Don't know how much it would help if you do have any issues later but at least it would prove you haven't stole the bits!

Iancorky · Jun 24, 2018

Sounds like there may 2 motors running about with the same ID
Wonder if the VIN plate has been 'accidentally' stuck to another vehicle - by mistake of course

I'd be doing a bit of research first before parting with any dosh

jamesmartin · Jun 24, 2018

robert beddard said:
Good morning

I’ve been offered a Land Rover Defender without any paperwork, will I be able to apply for a log book ? If the Vin plate is missing can I use the number from the Chassis and engine number ?

Thank you

chassis no is the same as vin so if its legit you can

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

neilly said:
Sounds expensive though......and a lot of work. post some pics when doing it.

Cheers

Will do,

Thanks

robert beddard · Jun 24, 2018

Kwakerman said:
If you go for it make sure you get a receipt from the vendor stating exactly what you are buying and stating chassis / paperwork not available. Also get the receipt to include engine number and both gearboxes numbers, could even try and get some photos added to the receipt (or signed as a true likeness of what he is selling). Don't know how much it would help if you do have any issues later but at least it would prove you haven't stole the bits!

Thanks, great information,

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