Changing My Chassis - Yey!

Fur Trapper said:

according to the land rover history site said the 200d and 300d are same size block with different insides. They changed the crankshaft in them the later with 4 main bearings as older had 3 main bearing . Any way the history has all the info on the motor history and why the changes came about. Hope this helps

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Four bearings? Were there some 3 cylinder Tdi's around then They went over to a five bearing crank - four just don't make sense with four pistons. Got one block stripped on the bench if you want proof, blasted people sent the wrong main bearings so they don't fit...

ed.poore said:

Four bearings? Were there some 3 cylinder Tdi's around then They went over to a five bearing crank - four just don't make sense with four pistons. Got one block stripped on the bench if you want proof, blasted people sent the wrong main bearings so they don't fit...

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Thank you I have been saying that for a long time. The 200 was a gas motor changed to diesel with just a head change( and a few other bits) and all parts are interchangeable on the motor block

No to 3 cylinder tdi's.

Or did you give them the wrong motor info ?

all the 4 cyinder blocks from 21/4 petrol to 300 tdi have same bore siz 3.562 inches ,same crank journal diameters ,5 brg blocks came out with 21/4 petrol and diesel and can be identified by red colour and a cast cross hatch running along bottom of block just above sump even though they all have same journal size bearings arent inter changable across all blocks

Fur Trapper said:

Thank you I have been saying that for a long time. The 200 was a gas motor changed to diesel with just a head change( and a few other bits) and all parts are interchangeable on the motor block

No to 3 cylinder tdi's. one bearing on each end of motor and 2 in the middle

Or did you give them the wrong motor info ?

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I know there are no 3 cylinder Tdi's . The diesels in the Series III were originally three bearing units (one at either and and one in the middle) and then ~1980 they went to a 5 bearing cranks (two either end and three in the middle) to solve the problems of breaking cranks. They also changed the wait the rear crank seal works to make it simpler to change / more reliable.

IIRC the Tdis kept a 5 bearing crank since it means that there's a bearing between each piston then. The 3 bearing units failed because under load other conditions the crank would begin to flex.

Land Rover, Range Rover engine history - by Glencoyne 4x4 (Thetford)

[edit]No I didn't quote them the wrong engine block - they had the damn block with them when they ordered the bits for me. Apparently what happened was that their supplier looked up the part - had been super-seeded but the replacement part only fits the later 2.5 engines not the 2.25 as the locating notch is on the wrong side because the older ones have lubrication holes on both halves of the shell not just the block side.[/edit]

mr fur trapper 300 block while as mentioned earlier shares same bore size and head gasket is quite a different block to 200 tdi which is 200 that is similar to 21/4 petrol etc

Well here are the pictures



Chassis on the trailer in front, heading down to Wickford.



Body off in the air, then old chassis rolled out for stripping.



Stu is very happy!



Whole engine, autobox, tranny coming out together.



Rolling chassis slid under and then the body was dropped.

At that point I stopped taking pics as my battery was low but it all went back together without too much messing around. Will post a few pics up later on. Considering none of us has ever done such a thing, it all went well.

As I drove it out the workshop and got 100 yards up the road, the intercooler hose popped off so we reconnected that and went to start the engine but it wouldn't start

Inhibitor switch and autobox selector must have fell out of line so it wouldn't select in park or neutral very well so we carefully dragged it back to the unit and locked it up last night. I got a lift home with Stu and fell asleep straight away

Going back there today in the hiab recovery to bring it back to Ipswich where I can fettle the last few bits, replace a few bolts, etc and check EVERY nut and bolt once more

All being well, we'll be good.

Update soon

Well done-you must be proud

It was a hard weekend but it was done in about 48 hrs.... I took a fair few photos of it and will post up some on the forum, its good to see a pic with me in tho to prove i was there, lol

Hope you got some beer tokens Stu

biolandy said:

Hope you got some beer tokens Stu

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We dont do it for beer tokens mate we do it for mates, cakes and tea.....and you never know when you may put out the call for many hands.... to make mending your landy light work.

Sheep are on Matt when we are in wales in november...

You forgot to tell everybody about the mishap in the boot.:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi

666 george said:

You forgot to tell everybody about the mishap in the boot.:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi

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What mishap was that? op2:

Comedy gold. :lol:

matthew2riches said:

What mishap was that? op2:

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you know that quick decent Elevator you installed in the boot....

You've lost me on the elevator folks but it looks like a cracking job on the rest of the motor!

If we had the camera out at the time we could of got 250squid from you've been framed was well funny
For those that don't understand matt had only pop riveted the rear floor pan in for now so while the body was in the air he got in the boot and came crashing to the floor in an almighty bang was supprised he didn't hurt himself, defo woke him up thou

Brilliant job guys-not jealous at all!
How long should the galvo last?Any idea?

biolandy said:

Brilliant job guys-not jealous at all!
How long should the galvo last?Any idea?

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Galv depends on where it is and what happens to it.

Say some galv'ed railings inshore can last 50 years easily

I reckon 20 - 30 years on a vehicle providing it isn't bashed about hugely.

Well done to all, that looks "the Dogs Bollocks"

I have pipe dreams of getting a disco galvanised.

Body, chassis, axles, wheels, the lot. And get the ali panels stripped and leave them bare.

Probably a project for when I'm old, rich and bored