Business rates info ?

wickford90 · Jan 16, 2015

I am looking at a unit that will be used solely for working on motors as a hobby, not as a business, the owner is obviously charging business rates as he is being charged, are hobby use units rated different.

jamesmartin · Jan 16, 2015

id think you have a hard time proving its not a business ,rates wise

leeds · Jan 17, 2015

Contact your local council with the EXACT address of the unit you are renting.

I am assuming you are thinking of renting a unit which is not a shared unit and has its own door on it etc.

Currently there is 100% relief on business rates if the rateable value is less then £6,000?
as long as you only have one business address.

Your local council office is the best place to get advice on the unit you are talking about.

Brendan

hughesy · Jan 17, 2015

I think you'd need to get a change of use at the planning dept in order to get out of business rates and the council planning bods will probably not be very interested in that.

wickford90 · Jan 17, 2015

Thanks for the input, it's the rates that that bump the price out of reach as it's just a hobby thing.

pressbrake · Jan 17, 2015

No escape from rates

b20wnx · Jan 17, 2015

As a matter of interest, what size was unit and how much?

trax · Jan 17, 2015

pressbrake said:
No escape from rates

unless in scotland and the rateable value is <10k

pressbrake · Jan 17, 2015

trax said:
unless in scotland and the rateable value is <10k

Where I am in essex there are big differences even by town in rate bills. A brand new 5000sq ft workshop on canvey island £700pcm , 5 miles away in Rayleigh essex 5000sq flooding leaky dump £4000pcm!!!! Im not talking about rent thats just rates

Bump · Jan 17, 2015

I don't pay rates on mine and mine is used for business... it's 1000sqft and i get small business relief on it... how big is it?

wickford90 · Jan 17, 2015

b20wnx said:
As a matter of interest, what size was unit and how much?

It's 12mtr x 7mtrs maybe a tad bigger, it's inclusive of electric and has outside parking area of about the same, it's £500 a month all in.( I think I could get it a bit cheaper with a bit of haggling)

b20wnx · Jan 18, 2015

wickford90 said:
It's 12mtr x 7mtrs maybe a tad bigger, it's inclusive of electric and has outside parking area of about the same, it's £500 a month all in.( I think I could get it a bit cheaper with a bit of haggling)

That's quiet a size, and in London too, maybe up here could find something half that price and if you could get 4 or 5 of you sharing it would be worth it IMHO.
£500 a month is a lot if your not going to use everyday...

wickford90 · Jan 18, 2015

b20wnx said:
That's quiet a size, and in London too, maybe up here could find something half that price and if you could get 4 or 5 of you sharing it would be worth it IMHO.
£500 a month is a lot if your not going to use everyday...

Not quite in London, just outside Billericay essex. But still mental money. If I went 45 minutes further into the country that price would probably half. I am looking to find a couple of people to share.

aaronmorris · Jan 19, 2015

I've been looking at doing the same too. Mainly because the neighbours hate me tinkering with lr's and have reported me to the council/police, more than once.
I actually feel like I'm being harassed and watched, but I really can't justify the cost of renting a unit

wickford90 · Jan 19, 2015

aaronmorris said:
I've been looking at doing the same too. Mainly because the neighbours hate me tinkering with lr's and have reported me to the council/police, more than once.
I actually feel like I'm being harassed and watched, but I really can't justify the cost of renting a unit

If I can get a few too share it will be about £25 a week each which isn't to bad for peace of mind and out of the weather.

b20wnx · Jan 19, 2015

Your right £25 a week ain't too bad and you can always sub rent by the hour for others in local area.
Aaron - I had the same a few years ago, I had totally stripped mine, refurb end everything ready for putting back together - had complaint from someone local, they told me I had 7 days to get rid or they would remove. Not supposed to do major works on driveway....

aaronmorris · Jan 19, 2015

wickford90 said:
If I can get a few too share it will be about £25 a week each which isn't to bad for peace of mind and out of the weather.

Yes, very true, but the only people I know are nothing like me, so I'm left on me tod.

b20wnx said:
Your right £25 a week ain't too bad and you can always sub rent by the hour for others in local area.
Aaron - I had the same a few years ago, I had totally stripped mine, refurb end everything ready for putting back together - had complaint from someone local, they told me I had 7 days to get rid or they would remove. Not supposed to do major works on driveway....

Really?
A lot of my work is done in the garage anyway, out of prying eyes.
But the council have been out 'because they (the next door neighbours) reported me for running a business' and just said
'It doesn't look like you're running a business from home'
I just told them I'm doing my hobby, I've no work at the moment and that's why it's nearly everyday.
They have since reported me again (they told me to my face this time, or the gobby mother did) and haven't heard anything.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
Either way, I will be carrying on with my 'hobby' and don't see how they can come onto your property and take what's yours. But I may be wrong.

b20wnx · Jan 19, 2015

aaronmorris said:
Yes, very true, but the only people I know are nothing like me, so I'm left on me tod.

Really?
A lot of my work is done in the garage anyway, out of prying eyes.
But the council have been out 'because they (the next door neighbours) reported me for running a business' and just said
'It doesn't look like you're running a business from home'
I just told them I'm doing my hobby, I've no work at the moment and that's why it's nearly everyday.
They have since reported me again (they told me to my face this time, or the gobby mother did) and haven't heard anything.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
Either way, I will be carrying on with my 'hobby' and don't see how they can come onto your property and take what's yours. But I may be wrong.

I checked it all out and they can, they can also end your tenancy - sold in bits for much more than I paid for it but gutrenching

aaronmorris · Jan 19, 2015

b20wnx said:
I checked it all out and they can, they can also end your tenancy - sold in bits for much more than I paid for it but gutrenching

Ah, renting maybe different to bought.
And I can imagine bud.

top drive · Jan 19, 2015

Glad you added tennenacy to that b20wnx was about to say anyone comes to mine to remove the landy from my drive against my wishes would be getting my splitting axe through their windscreen.

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