Braided Brake Lines

bankz5152 · Apr 7, 2015

Can anyone help/clear a few things up for me?

I'm looking to fit some braided brake lines to my 2002 TD5 90 Non-ABS. Most of what I have read just say they eliminate sponginess under heavy braking, any other benefits?

Secondly how do I know if I need a 3 or 4 line kit?
Are they generally priced per corner or for a set to do the whole vehicle?
If its per corner does the back have to be done at the same time as the front?

Thanks,
Josh

vilguy · Apr 7, 2015

They purely remove the sponginess in the rubber hoses that you are replacing. They are a little tougher than rubber hoses (obviously) and look pretty.

Yourll not notice the difference unless yer hoses are utterly shagged.

Wouldnt make any difference if you only did say the front or the back.

top drive · Apr 7, 2015

potentially harder to spot damage in also as the rubber internals can leak without fluid getting to the outside.

something i saw often on pushbikes with braided hoses and also well documented on drift cars.

bankz5152 · Apr 7, 2015

Interesting. Rubber pipes seem to be fine, no leaks and the landy does stop.

I ask as the drivers side brake pipe is apparently slightly damaged at the point when it meets the calliper. Again it doesnt leak and it is in place but when we tried to move the line to access a bolt the union attachment was moving slightly with the pipe. So it was suggested I change the pipe.

robbh · Apr 7, 2015

Change everything to s/s braided!

I did, wouldn't ever go back to having copper brake pipes again that's for sure. Another plus is no more rusty brake fittings ever again.

And they look sexy as f***

bankz5152 · Apr 7, 2015

That does look cool lol. Though unless there is a noticable performance increase I doubt Ill bother

robbh · Apr 7, 2015

bankz5152 said:
That does look cool lol. Though unless there is a noticable performance increase I doubt Ill bother

Cheers!

lol

It did make a major improvement to my disco but that was because I replaced the calipers, discs and pads at the same time as the braided hoses. And the old stuff was pretty shot to be fair.

Another reason I did it was because I hate making new copper hoses and most connections had seized solid so needed a lot of new lines made up.

Plus I'm lazy and this was easy and will be easy in future!

Paulmitchell1984 · Apr 7, 2015

iv just ordered nearly all new from LLama 4x4 but running my fronts a different way to standard, but with new 110 discs and calipers and new discs n pads rear so hpefully il have an improvement

wattfield · Apr 7, 2015

robbh said:
Change everything to s/s braided!

I did, wouldn't ever go back to having copper brake pipes again that's for sure. Another plus is no more rusty brake fittings ever again.

And they look sexy as f***

That looks like my driveway - do you tend to lose small nuts & washers in the hedge too?

How much did you pay for the brake lines?

mikeh501 · Apr 7, 2015

Where's that kit from also?

bankz5152 · Apr 7, 2015

hmmmm! I know my front discs are in excellent nick, calipers are pretty good, pads have loads of meat left.

Rears, discs are in worse condition but still alright, calipers are mediocre, pads are alright. So rears need doing this year ideally, so while I'm doing that I would fit braided ones on the rear.

robbh · Apr 7, 2015

wattfield said:
That looks like my driveway - do you tend to lose small nuts & washers in the hedge too?

How much did you pay for the brake lines?

Yes in loose lots in the hedge!

Even found something I lost 2 years ago the other day!

The full set of braided hoses was £240 Inc Vat and delivery from llama 4x4.

And that does include a spare hose that'll fit any corner of the vehicle. I had it made so all 4 end pieces are the same.

Brown · Apr 8, 2015

It's recommended to change things like seals and hoses anyway at 48,000 mile intervals. Or I think it says that in my Haynes manual but it's out in the car at the moment and I don't have it to hand. So it's worth doing. Chances are with a non ABS system you'll have a single flexible line to the back axle and one each to the front callipers. So a 3 line kit should suffice. I found the standard ones a bit short, even for a non lifted Land Rover so you might want to consider +2".

vilguy · Apr 8, 2015

240 quid!!!!

for some braided hose and stainless fittings!!

They are about £10 for a single line from a hydaulic hose supplier and you can get good discount the more you buy. I had some custom lines made up for my Vstrom for £20 for the full set of 3.

trax · Apr 8, 2015

cupro would outlive the vehicle and be waaaaay cheaper. look nice though.

they use a decent rubber under the stainless braid? be crap if it was r6

vilguy · Apr 9, 2015

well typical karma... a braided hose on my drivers side failed this morning and left me without any brakes

bankz5152 · Apr 9, 2015

****ed

vilguy · Apr 9, 2015

bankz5152 said:
****ed

more ****ting me'sen as i was doing 60mph at the time and attempting to stop for a car in front of me

farmershort · Apr 9, 2015

tbh I think I'd be tempted just to replace rubber with braid, and swap the solid lines for new cupro... solid lines look much neater imho.... braid looks cool at the corners though.

my stage 3 saab 9000 has braided brake lines at the corners, but like most people, I changed several variables at the same time, so can't vouch for the lines on their own.

trax · Apr 9, 2015

just remember you can't clamp braid when isolating the brakes

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