Bad Used Car Engine from - (Still Waiting For My Money Back)

Dear all

This posting is a small 'shot across the bow' for a used Auto Spares company
in S Yorkshire, vicinity of A1(M) JCT37 and M18 JCT4.

I was looking for a used but good 1.7 16v engine for my Alfa 33 - they
called me with 'a good one, 48k miles from a 1993 car' delivered and with 3
months warranty. Duly my credit card came out of my wallet and it was
delivered to my home.

Well, it was actually a 1990 engine (in the casting that they'd tried to
hammer the '0' from) and apart from the rusty valves, when I'd fitted it I
topped all the levels up and, yes, the coolant actually poured from the crap
cylinder head gasket.

After writing letters and making numerous phone calls, this company won't
make any committment to a refund and collecting the engine. Any 'possible
dates' for collection of the engine have passed. Still I have an engine
that isn't fit for purpose or as described.

Well, If anyone from the 'used Auto Spares' business reads this, your
company info is on its way to me from companies house (because your trading
name isn't your ACTUAL name) and if I don't get my money back, these guys on
these newsgroups will be the first to hear your true identity. But only the
first.

Rev. Alfa Adam wrote:
> Dear all
>=20
> This posting is a small 'shot across the bow' for a used Auto Spares
> company in S Yorkshire, vicinity of A1(M) JCT37 and M18 JCT4.
>=20
> I was looking for a used but good 1.7 16v engine for my Alfa 33 - they
> called me with 'a good one, 48k miles from a 1993 car' delivered and
> with 3 months warranty. Duly my credit card came out of my wallet
> and it was delivered to my home.
>=20
> Well, it was actually a 1990 engine (in the casting that they'd tried
> to hammer the '0' from) and apart from the rusty valves, when I'd
> fitted it I topped all the levels up and, yes, the coolant actually
> poured from the crap cylinder head gasket.
>=20
> After writing letters and making numerous phone calls, this company
> won't make any committment to a refund and collecting the engine.=20
> Any 'possible dates' for collection of the engine have passed. Still
> I have an engine that isn't fit for purpose or as described.
>=20
> Well, If anyone from the 'used Auto Spares' business reads this, your
> company info is on its way to me from companies house (because your
> trading name isn't your ACTUAL name) and if I don't get my money
> back, these guys on these newsgroups will be the first to hear your
> true identity. But only the first.

You brought it with your credit card? Let them do all the work - they =
*should* refund you the monies and chase the seller.

> Well, If anyone from the 'used Auto Spares' business reads this, your
> company info is on its way to me from companies house (because your
> trading name isn't your ACTUAL name) and if I don't get my money
> back, these guys on these newsgroups will be the first to hear your
> true identity. But only the first.

Would the address be something farm?

The credit card company may be able to assist you. In any case They should
be honerable enough to make good the claim they made

Coot
"Rev. Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear all
>
> This posting is a small 'shot across the bow' for a used Auto Spares
company
> in S Yorkshire, vicinity of A1(M) JCT37 and M18 JCT4.
>
> I was looking for a used but good 1.7 16v engine for my Alfa 33 - they
> called me with 'a good one, 48k miles from a 1993 car' delivered and with
3
> months warranty. Duly my credit card came out of my wallet and it was
> delivered to my home.
>
> Well, it was actually a 1990 engine (in the casting that they'd tried to
> hammer the '0' from) and apart from the rusty valves, when I'd fitted it I
> topped all the levels up and, yes, the coolant actually poured from the
crap
> cylinder head gasket.
>
> After writing letters and making numerous phone calls, this company won't
> make any committment to a refund and collecting the engine. Any 'possible
> dates' for collection of the engine have passed. Still I have an engine
> that isn't fit for purpose or as described.
>
> Well, If anyone from the 'used Auto Spares' business reads this, your
> company info is on its way to me from companies house (because your
trading
> name isn't your ACTUAL name) and if I don't get my money back, these guys
on
> these newsgroups will be the first to hear your true identity. But only
the
> first.
>
>

> Would the address be something farm?

So, do you work for them or have you had good/bad dealings with them then?

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:56:44 +0100, "Rev. Alfa Adam"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Dear all
>
>This posting is a small 'shot across the bow' for a used Auto Spares company
>in S Yorkshire, vicinity of A1(M) JCT37 and M18 JCT4.
>
>I was looking for a used but good 1.7 16v engine for my Alfa 33 - they
>called me with 'a good one, 48k miles from a 1993 car' delivered and with 3
>months warranty. Duly my credit card came out of my wallet and it was
>delivered to my home.
>
>Well, it was actually a 1990 engine (in the casting that they'd tried to
>hammer the '0' from) and apart from the rusty valves, when I'd fitted it I
>topped all the levels up and, yes, the coolant actually poured from the crap
>cylinder head gasket.
>
>After writing letters and making numerous phone calls, this company won't
>make any committment to a refund and collecting the engine. Any 'possible
>dates' for collection of the engine have passed. Still I have an engine
>that isn't fit for purpose or as described.
>
>Well, If anyone from the 'used Auto Spares' business reads this, your
>company info is on its way to me from companies house (because your trading
>name isn't your ACTUAL name) and if I don't get my money back, these guys on
>these newsgroups will be the first to hear your true identity. But only the
>first.
>
Sue them. Its very simple these days and the action can even be
started online

Probably wrong newsgroup...as we are mostly into vdubs...but at end of day,
can you not name them anyway ( I used to race alfasuds). If they provided
crap service, nothing changes that, so they cannot do you for slander. (take
digipics of problems...will always help in court)

Neil

I agree that you ought to threaten to sue them in the County Court. You can
obtain the necessary paperwork from your local court and it comes with
explanatory leaflets. It is quite likely that once the seller is served
with the court documents he will pay up without a fight.

If you do go this route you should give the company a definite date to
rectify the matter after which you will initiate proceedings and you MUST be
prepared to do so. Perhaps you should also seek advice on the uk.legal
group.

Good luck,
David.

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"Tone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:56:44 +0100, "Rev. Alfa Adam"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> Sue them. Its very simple these days and the action can even be
> started online
>
>

> Probably wrong newsgroup...as we are mostly into vdubs...but at end of
day,
> can you not name them anyway ( I used to race alfasuds). If they provided
> crap service, nothing changes that, so they cannot do you for slander.
(take
> digipics of problems...will always help in court)

Ah, but the engine is a opposed 4! (water cooled though....)

I've done the pictures already, but if it all goes badly pear shaped, I will
simply state my dealings with them - others can draw their on conclusions
from how I acted and how they acted with respect to the purchase of an
engine that was mis-described and defective.

Did I mention that they also debited my credit card twice?

Adam H

"Rev. Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear all
>
> This posting is a small 'shot across the bow' for a used Auto Spares
company
> in S Yorkshire, vicinity of A1(M) JCT37 and M18 JCT4.
>
> I was looking for a used but good 1.7 16v engine for my Alfa 33 - they
> called me with 'a good one, 48k miles from a 1993 car' delivered and with
3
> months warranty. Duly my credit card came out of my wallet and it was
> delivered to my home.
>
> Well, it was actually a 1990 engine (in the casting that they'd tried to
> hammer the '0' from) and apart from the rusty valves, when I'd fitted it I
> topped all the levels up and, yes, the coolant actually poured from the
crap
> cylinder head gasket.
>
> After writing letters and making numerous phone calls, this company won't
> make any committment to a refund and collecting the engine. Any 'possible
> dates' for collection of the engine have passed. Still I have an engine
> that isn't fit for purpose or as described.
>
> Well, If anyone from the 'used Auto Spares' business reads this, your
> company info is on its way to me from companies house (because your
trading
> name isn't your ACTUAL name) and if I don't get my money back, these guys
on
> these newsgroups will be the first to hear your true identity. But only
the
> first.
>
> I was robbed by some "back to fronts" from Castleford, perhaps its
spreading?
Steve the grease

"Rev. Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Would the address be something farm?
>
> So, do you work for them or have you had good/bad dealings with them then?
>

Had dealings with them found them very average, and a little expensive, but
they had the bit i wanted, and it was in good nice, just needed cleaning

> Did I mention that they also debited my credit card twice?

As has been suggested, all you need to do is phone your credit card company.
They will send you a form to complete, you'll get your money back.

It's really simple, so just do it.


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> ........................ Perhaps you should also seek advice on the
uk.legal
> group.
>

Yeah, why not, its allready crossposted to about 300 groups, what difference
would one more make?

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...


> << To email me please swap over Denton and Lodge in my address >>
>
> "Tone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:56:44 +0100, "Rev. Alfa Adam"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > Sue them. Its very simple these days and the action can even be
> > started online
> >
> >

> I agree that you ought to threaten to sue them in the County Court. You can
> obtain the necessary paperwork from your local court and it comes with
> explanatory leaflets. It is quite likely that once the seller is served
> with the court documents he will pay up without a fight.
>
> If you do go this route you should give the company a definite date to
> rectify the matter after which you will initiate proceedings and you MUST be
> prepared to do so. Perhaps you should also seek advice on the uk.legal
> group.
>
You'll have to be quick. Dodgy businesses like this usually dissolve themselves
when something like this comes up against them, so you've not no
company to fight against and get money back off. They'll probably restart
themselves under a different name, and get a different monkey to be director.
Its a common loophole that crooks use unfortunately, and one I've been a
victim of.

"Davemar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
> > << To email me please swap over Denton and Lodge in my address >>
> >
> > "Tone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:56:44 +0100, "Rev. Alfa Adam"
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > Sue them. Its very simple these days and the action can even be
> > > started online
> > >
> > >
>
> > I agree that you ought to threaten to sue them in the County Court. You
can
> > obtain the necessary paperwork from your local court and it comes with
> > explanatory leaflets. It is quite likely that once the seller is served
> > with the court documents he will pay up without a fight.
> >
> > If you do go this route you should give the company a definite date to
> > rectify the matter after which you will initiate proceedings and you
MUST be
> > prepared to do so. Perhaps you should also seek advice on the uk.legal
> > group.
> >
> You'll have to be quick. Dodgy businesses like this usually dissolve
themselves
> when something like this comes up against them, so you've not no
> company to fight against and get money back off. They'll probably restart
> themselves under a different name, and get a different monkey to be
director.
> Its a common loophole that crooks use unfortunately, and one I've been a
> victim of.

So have I see http://turtill.blogspot.com
smicker

Sue em https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp

In this sort of case then ask some advice and see if you can initiate
liquidation proceedings, they can't just dissolve and reform, they have to
pay off all claims and liabilities and a court liqudator disposes of the
assets. they're sunk. and if they're the dodgy sort, they'll be near enough
the edge to go this route.

> You'll have to be quick. Dodgy businesses like this usually dissolve
themselves
> when something like this comes up against them, so you've not no
> company to fight against and get money back off. They'll probably restart
> themselves under a different name, and get a different monkey to be
director.
> Its a common loophole that crooks use unfortunately, and one I've been a
> victim of.