P38A Anyone know if the M52 in the p38 will run on veg oil (SVO)?

Mark Piercy · Mar 17, 2022

I'd like to use the waste oil from the service work I do. Obviously in the correct ratio.

badfluffy · Mar 18, 2022

my question is would the l322 run on veg oil at 50/50 fix

52 classic · Mar 18, 2022

I used to run my old Pajero on cooking oil but I stopped doing it because I was putting on weight. Our driveway/garage area smelled like a Chinese takeaway........ and I love a Chinese!

Datatek · Mar 18, 2022

badfluffy said:
my question is would the l322 run on veg oil at 50/50 fix

Personally I wouldn't want to risk it, too many sensors that might not like it. Then it would be a batard of a job getting it out of the system.

biketeacherdave · Mar 18, 2022

No not an L322

tomcat59alan · Mar 20, 2022

Doesn't it cause problems with the in tank fuel pump?

Jon Dor · Mar 20, 2022

badfluffy said:
my question is would the l322 run on veg oil at 50/50 fix

Too much electrickery and likely too many sensors to get past.

Ian M in France · Mar 20, 2022

Datatek said:
Totally illegal here. We have a bio-diesel refinery near us, reputedly all the output goes to Germany as it cannot be sold here.

A new service station has opened near us, it sells just one fuel at 1€20 a litre seems to be for lorries not sure what it is, only ever see the odd lorry on there and it is not manned, one of my sons mates did the ground work for the sight but did not get a straight answer as to what it was,

Datatek · Mar 20, 2022

Ian M in France said:
A new service station has opened near us, it sells just one fuel at 1€20 a litre seems to be for lorries not sure what it is, only ever see the odd lorry on there and it is not manned, one of my sons mates did the ground work for the sight but did not get a straight answer as to what it was,

There are many of those unmanned truck fill up stations around, as far as I'm aware, you need a special card to access them and be part of some scheme or other.

Ian M in France · Mar 20, 2022

Datatek said:
There are many of those unmanned truck fill up stations around, as far as I'm aware, you need a special card to access them and be part of some scheme or other.

you are right I have seen others but think this is different sure it is not normal fuel it sells, it has been open almost a year price is always 1€20 a litre,
just googled it and it is compressed natural gas
https://www.terega.fr/en/newsroom/t...uture-ngv-station-of-bio-gnv-du-confluent-sas

Datatek · Mar 20, 2022

Ian M in France said:
you are right I have seen others but think this is different sure it is not normal fuel it sells, it has been open almost a year price is always 1€20 a litre,
just googled it and it is compressed natural gas
https://www.terega.fr/en/newsroom/t...uture-ngv-station-of-bio-gnv-du-confluent-sas

That's expensive for GPL.

Ian M in France · Mar 20, 2022

Datatek said:
That's expensive for GPL.

that is if it has the same output as GPL but maybe it has more power per litre

Datatek · Mar 21, 2022

Ian M in France said:
that is if it has the same output as GPL but maybe it has more power per litre

I'm not aware of any gas for vehicles with a higher energy density than GPL so it would be interesting if that were the case. I'm more inclined to think it's a figure to discourage car drivers from stopping

badfluffy · Mar 21, 2022

they have been running methane trucks over here

Grrrrrr · Mar 21, 2022

Datatek said:
I'm not aware of any gas for vehicles with a higher energy density than GPL so it would be interesting if that were the case. I'm more inclined to think it's a figure to discourage car drivers from stopping

If it had more butane or even a bit of pentane it was have a bit more heat. Or even some enes or ynes, like acetylene!

Datatek · Mar 21, 2022

Grrrrrr said:
If it had more butane or even a bit of pentane it was have a bit more heat. Or even some enes or ynes, like acetylene!

Butane is not a lot of good in the cold.

Mukiwa · Apr 18, 2022

biketeacherdave said:
Yes it will run very well on svo, you can mix 5% unleaded to thin and winterise it. My local cash n carry I think is doing 20litre for £19.95.

The bosch ve injection pump and injectors handle it great.

Until the HP o rings leak.... I know I've done it twice. Budget for a Viton o ring change and all is fine and dandy

Mukiwa · Apr 18, 2022

pwood999 said:
Isn't it slightly not legal unless you pay some fuel duty ?

Nope, not illegal at all. I think there is a rule on so many thousand litres of the stuff to be used without paying / declaring duty. I'm sure it works out at 12,000miles a year equivalent. I did 12,000 and a little bit miles in one year in mine when the HP o ring finally let go. Very messy and drips diesel/petrol/cooking oil mix everywhere and it sets into a nasty coating all over the engine and underneath of the car that's hard to remove

Mukiwa · Apr 18, 2022

tomcat59alan said:
Doesn't it cause problems with the in tank fuel pump?

I removed the filter from the in tank pump. No more problems

Datatek · Apr 18, 2022

Mukiwa said:
Nope, not illegal at all. I think there is a rule on so many thousand litres of the stuff to be used without paying / declaring duty. I'm sure it works out at 12,000miles a year equivalent. I did 12,000 and a little bit miles in one year in mine when the HP o ring finally let go. Very messy and drips diesel/petrol/cooking oil mix everywhere and it sets into a nasty coating all over the engine and underneath of the car that's hard to remove

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