Anyone driving to France, new rules from 1/7/15

Datatek · Jul 17, 2015

blue beasty said:
All true no doubt but almost total reliance on the financial sector and the demise of industry sit squarely on Thatchers shoulders.

Blaming one party or another is pointless when a succession of both in power have been heading the same direction and make future choices pretty dire.

Not the unions then

The dead unburied, rubbish not collected the 3 day week due to power shortages etc etc.

blue beasty · Jul 17, 2015

Datatek said:
Not the unions then
The dead unburied, rubbish not collected the 3 day week due to power shortages etc etc.

To some extent yes but the real killer was carving up the unregulated banking sector with Reagan and making a choice to rely on banking instead of manufacturing output to keep the economy afloat.

It's a situation that's very hard to back out of. Our GDP is made of smoke and mirrors.

wattfield · Jul 17, 2015

Volusia said:
Having been in a position to pose the question of his raid on pension funds in the first year he carried out the theft of 5 billion pounds from said funds, I have to admit Brown gave a good, almost convincing, account of his actions. But agree, no government, whatever it's colour has the nounce to run the country, which is run by faceless civil servants anyway. But one fact remains, if you need to raise money you have to raise it from the hordes rather than who we would all like to see it raised from, the bankers. If Britain lost its banking sector, the apprentices you speak of who were dropped in favour of bussing in cheap labour voting workers, would not have anything to be apprenticed at. It seems all that is left in the UK is service industries, the city and precious little else. Even the Electrical distribution and supply companies, a core element to civilized living, dropped apprentiships thanks to labours so short sighted plans to keep folk like Millipede and Andy ( mid staffs) Burnham in office at all costs.

I actually agree with much of that, although if you classify what Gordon Brown did to pension funds as theft, then so are all other taxes. Not that I think he was right. Incidentally, my father worked for one of those electrical supply companies ( the only one at the time, being a nationalised industry). Their apprenticeships stopped when Andy Burnham was 12 years old, and my Dad moved to another job, as he trained apprentices until then. My grandfather and great grandfather worked for the same company, and if those apprenticeships had continued for another year, so would I.

Datatek · Jul 18, 2015

blue beasty said:
To some extent yes but the real killer was carving up the unregulated banking sector with Reagan and making a choice to rely on banking instead of manufacturing output to keep the economy afloat.

It's a situation that's very hard to back out of. Our GDP is made of smoke and mirrors.

Plus getting rid of the Truck laws that allowed one to demand wages in cash, so making the banks almost essential to everyday life.

Volusia · Jul 18, 2015

wattfield said:
I actually agree with much of that, although if you classify what Gordon Brown did to pension funds as theft, then so are all other taxes. Not that I think he was right. Incidentally, my father worked for one of those electrical supply companies ( the only one at the time, being a nationalised industry). Their apprenticeships stopped when Andy Burnham was 12 years old, and my Dad moved to another job, as he trained apprentices until then. My grandfather and great grandfather worked for the same company, and if those apprenticeships had continued for another year, so would I.

I worked for thirty years in the industry. Started when it was nationalised right through to American ownership, Warren Buffet, it had to be de nationalised as all the loans the R.E.C.s had taken from the government, following the war had been repaid, and at that time non bill payers were cut off until they coughed up. Imagine the egg on face any government would have been subjected to had they switched old Florrie at the bottom of the road off.
It was all under the guise of ridding the country of monopolies. That's a joke when you look at the ownership of these companies now!

Bennehboy · Jul 18, 2015

Driven to Normandy a few times via Dieppe, the roads are an absolute pleasure. Only bit that's crap is going over the Pont De Normandie, queues can get a bit long.

Got stopped by the Gendarmerie once but that was just a random stop at a roundabout, checked my license, reg, insurance and set me on my way. They weren't at all snotty.

Datatek · Jul 18, 2015

Bennehboy said:
Driven to Normandy a few times via Dieppe, the roads are an absolute pleasure. Only bit that's crap is going over the Pont De Normandie, queues can get a bit long.

Got stopped by the Gendarmerie once but that was just a random stop at a roundabout, checked my license, reg, insurance and set me on my way. They weren't at all snotty.

Yep can be a bit of a queue, but Reims is no longer a problem. Calais/Dover is much worse for jams at one end or the other.

hoopfish · Jul 18, 2015

Bobsticle said:
It is also an offence to raise a firearm if in the company of a German. You must drop it immediately and run away awaiting the arrival of other nationalities to pull you out of the ****.

:bounce:

That tickled me!

Bennehboy · Jul 18, 2015

Datatek said:
Yep can be a bit of a queue, but Reims is no longer a problem. Calais/Dover is much worse for jams at one end or the other.

Gonna do Cherbourg next year, didn't realise Brittania ferries have a 'club' that knocks loads off the price. Newhaven Dieppe was ~500 quid for the D2 (5 of us) this year and the no discount price for Cherbourg was over 800!!!! Workmate pointed it out literally a couple days after I'd coughed up.

Datatek · Jul 19, 2015

Bennehboy said:
Gonna do Cherbourg next year, didn't realise Brittania ferries have a 'club' that knocks loads off the price. Newhaven Dieppe was ~500 quid for the D2 (5 of us) this year and the no discount price for Cherbourg was over 800!!!! Workmate pointed it out literally a couple days after I'd coughed up.

Newhaven Dieppe £500

I paid £104 return last year with 2 people.
If you cross regularly, the Brittany Ferries club is worth while. Once a year and it's not.
If you are travelling peak period and your day/time is flexible can be done for £309 Newhaven Dieppe

Bennehboy · Jul 19, 2015

Datatek said:
Newhaven Dieppe £500 I paid £104 return last year with 2 people.
If you cross regularly, the Brittany Ferries club is worth while. Once a year and it's not.
If you are travelling peak period and your day/time is flexible can be done for £309 Newhaven Dieppe

Every year has been about 500 smackers, got 2 youngish kids so can't really do stupid o'clock. Get screwed coz the Disco is over 2.2 metres.

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