Another 90 Rebuild

Al2O3 · Jun 8, 2014

Done very little on Landy this weekend. Been building a bar for a beer festival

in between the heavy showers that is.
Got a new gear box cross member, rubbed it down and painted it with rustoleum. Engine clean next weekend, weather permitting

Al2O3 · Jun 15, 2014

Got the bar finished. See picture - spent all day yesterday from 9am until 7pm knackered.

Got around to sticking some bits back on the Landy today. No washers for the anti-roll bar joints. I'm sure it had some when I took them off. Typically the pictures I took don't quite show clearly and the picture in the manual is too small. The joint didn't come with a washer, just a castellated nut and a split pin. Should there be washers where I've put arrows.

Offered up the gear box cross member and it seems way wide. The local Landy specialist, where I bought it, did say you often had to hammer them in.

What about the galv on the chassis? Is this usual? It's a Richards chassis.

aaronmorris · Jun 15, 2014

Allways the same with the crossmembers mate, I had to jack my chassis rails apart to get it in.

Al2O3 · Jun 15, 2014

Do the chassis rails flex easily? Can't imagine it.

I've got a big trolley jack, will that do? I presume you used wood packing to avoid damaging the rails?

aaronmorris · Jun 15, 2014

Al2O3 said:
Do the chassis rails flex easily? Can't imagine it.

I've got a big trolley jack, will that do? I presume you used wood packing to avoid damaging the rails?

I used a bottle jack and packed out with wood yes.
A trolley jack may be rather difficult to hold in position while you start jacking.
My opinion, Buy a bottle jack for £10. That's what I did and is much more manageable

Al2O3 · Jun 15, 2014

Son is home from uni so he can hold the jack in place while I operate it. Even cheaper than £10

aaronmorris · Jun 15, 2014

Al2O3 said:
Son is home from uni so he can hold the jack in place while I operate it. Even cheaper than £10

Fair play, You'll probably manage, But I can't see it being easy trying to hold this big jack up with bits of wood wedged in whilst trying to move the jack handle

Al2O3 · Jun 15, 2014

Ha ha, that's true, but he's a big bugger. Rugby player and much bigger than me. Plus! I've got two more sons if more hands are needed!

Did the rails push outwards ok? Or take a hell of a lot of pressure?

jamesmartin · Jun 15, 2014

they push out easily ,but i usually just manage with a large copper hammer

Al2O3 · Jun 15, 2014

they push out easily ,but i usually just manage with a large copper hammer

I'm sure they must all be the same, but doing this for the first time the cross member seems silly wide. The welds on the corners of the rails make it worse.
Do you put yours in at an angle and them hammer them in to a straight position?

aaronmorris · Jun 15, 2014

Mine was the same as yours, Was no where near. Don't think you would have ever got it in with a hammer.

Al2O3 · Jun 15, 2014

Mine was the same as yours, Was no where near. Don't think you would have ever got it in with a hammer

Thanks for the jacking tip, then. I wouldn't have thought of that. a - because I wouldn't have thought the rails would jack out easily and b - because I would be worried about damaging my new chassis

jamesmartin · Jun 15, 2014

aaronmorris said:
Mine was the same as yours, Was no where near. Don't think you would have ever got it in with a hammer.

i have a hydraulic body repair kit ,put rarely use it for cross members,simply because it takes time to get and set up ,but you do find the odd chassis that needs it not many though

aaronmorris · Jun 16, 2014

jamesmartin said:
i have a hydraulic body repair kit ,put rarely use it for cross members,simply because it takes time to get and set up ,but you do find the odd chassis that needs it not many though

I've not had a problem getting them in/out of an old chassis.
But when I rebuild mine. So new galv chassis and crossmember it wouldn't go.

Now it's been in their a couple of months it might go in and out as it should. But I'm not about to go and try it

Al2O3 · Jun 21, 2014

I'll have to get a bottle jack, cos my trolley jack won't pump up when it's standing on it's nose or side

Couldn't quite remember which way the front anti roll bar joints went. With them hanging down the anti roll bar touches the steering bar when I pull the rubber mount up to the chassis.

I think the joints go up over and I have fitted it this way, but the joint actually touches the diff casing. It may move off it when everything is tightened up. Is this the correct way, with joints going up over. Pictures in manual not clear and I took a lot of pictures of the dismantling, but obviously not enough!

This shows the joint touching the diff.

This is the set up so far. Panhard rod bush won't fit in to axle, but I presume it will when the weight of the engine compresses everything.

I've put the pictures as attachments. Photobucket ones not working.

Al2O3 · Jun 30, 2014

Got in after 6 tonight, but it was still sunny and the bottle jack had arrived. So, I thought I'd have a go at getting the gearbox cross member in.

Unlike the trolley jack, the bottle jack worked on it's side no bother.

It doesn't look it, but it was still hellish tight. I didn't want to force the chassis rails too much. I could hear them making 'tinking' and 'dinking' noises as I jacked them apart.

When I got two bolts in as shown in the above pic I couldn't rotate it up and so used the trolley jack. It actually jacked up the whole chassis and I had to stand with one foot on each rail and bounce up and down to get it to rotate up in to position.

One of the holes in the two lugs on the chassis doesn't quite line up

Al2O3 · Jul 6, 2014

Unlike Aaron, I seem to have spent a lot of time this weekend and not achieved a great deal.
Spent most of Saturday cleaning down the engine with Gunk. Cleaned up well, with the block starting to show signs of rust by the end of the afternoon.

Had some family commitments today and so just got the engine mounts rubbed down and painted up,

They cleaned up well and I sprayed them matt black, cos it was all I had.

Hope to drop the engine on this week, if weather stays fine.

Al2O3 · Jul 19, 2014

Last post was two weeks ago and was hoping to get the engine in that weekend.

Problems with engine mounts, work most evenings and crane issues has meant taking until now to get it in. I got a lot of help with the lifting problems on a separate thread.

Stripping the bulkhead tomorrow. Then going camping for two weeks with the new one arriving a few days after we get back. Not looking forward to putting everything back on - loads more photos to take!

Al2O3 · Jul 21, 2014

Bulkhead stripped.

Fortunately the shear bolts holding the steering lock on are made of very soft metal. I started drilling a hole with the view to putting something in it to tap it around. Realised I could push the drill to form a slot. Then put a big flat blade screw driver, came away easily.

Thought the front shocks would go in easily once the engine was in. Wrong!

LR specialist I bought them from said it was a tricky job as next to no thread shows. Using the braided straps that held the shocks together I improvised this system and it worked a treat.

Put the nut over the flat blade end of the shocker stud then put a cupped washer over it (cup up over)

Some timber under the chassis with the straps around it and timber in the top to compress the washer. The screwdriver stopped the two bits of wood closing in on each other preventing access to the nut.

I haven't tried to take this apart yet, but Is this breather serviceable or is it easier just to change it?

Started cleaning up the fuel tank thinking the seam would probably just fall apart. Didn't get that far cos it was perforated above the seam. Don't know how it wasn't leaking

This is it so far, although all the shocks are on since this picture.

Next job is to paint the new bulkhead when it arrives. Once I've learned to paint that is

Al2O3 · Aug 12, 2014

Waiting for the bulkhead to arrive and so started work on the doors again today. Having spoken to Ashtree Landrover today, I've given up the idea of getting the door frames galvanised. Going for plastic coating instead. Successfully got the rear door skin off, with no creases, and taking the frame to a plastic coaters tomorrow to get a firm quote for all three.

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