Aggressive off road tyres

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Bit of a story but here goes.....

I have a set of 7J 16" D2 alloys coming to me. Mistake. I wanted 8J. They are free from a friend so not a big problem, but rather than sell em or bung em in the field, a friend suggested I stick some used proper off road / mud tyres on them just so I have something to change to if we got a nasty snowy winter like a few years ago, or in case I felt like going over some really rough fields shooting or whatever. It's not a bad idea. But I know sweet fanny adams about off road tyres. I plan to have BFG A/T KO2 on my full time wheels (mostly road, but some rough tracks and light off road for shooting) so i want something a lot more agressive than that. Basically looking for tyres with no interest in road handling, purely off road abilities.

I saw some used Hankook Dynapro MT 225/75/16 which I notice are a nice match for the 29" LR standard diameter wheels, but would these be considered capable of what I am fitting them for, i.e. emergency/very occasional use for muddy fields, maybe a bit of beach work to collect sea weed, or heavy snow... ?
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What sort of terrain and what vehicle?

If it's a D2, then a 245/70R16 might be an option too.
And give a bit of choice:
https://www.tyresdirectuk.co.uk/t/t...h[tyre_profile][]=70&search[tyre_width][]=245

The Dynapros look ok. I've not run them myself. They are certainly a mud terrain, but not the most aggressive. However different types of terrain will favour different tread patterns.

There is an overwhelming choice these days. Big lug, deep tread and good lug separation will always make an MT tyre more effective in the mud.
 
Thanks. Sorry yes it's for a 2004 D2 manual TD5.

I wasn't sure 245 would go on 7J wheels which is the wheels I have. If so, yep they look a good bet too, although I am looking for a cheap bargain on used fairl worn tyres as they are just a backup set for very rare use
 
john snoo said:
Thanks. Sorry yes it's for a 2004 D2 manual TD5.

I wasn't sure 245 would go on 7J wheels which is the wheels I have. If so, yep they look a good bet too, although I am looking for a cheap bargain on used fairl worn tyres as they are just a backup set for very rare use
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You need to give us more of a clue as to what usage you are looking for as asked above. In winter snow on road, the bfg AT will be fine and you will see only a very marginal benefit in swapping to a mud terrain trye. In the snow a couple of years ago I took a trailer down to Bath to bring back a frind sereis 1 which had had an attempted theft. This was the beast from the east hit hard and they closed half the road in the country. I drove down the M5 in virgin snow before the gritters had been out, the a46 was closed so had to go over the top road through the drifts, I then came back fully loaded and a no point did I feel my bfg AT's were lacking.
If you are looking aggressive rare usage in muddy fields I would be looking for something more along the lines of an insa turbo special track track, or a greenway anaconda (don't know if these are still made but I had a set when I first got my 110), both of those or any of that style are very good in mud but will be very poor on road in snow. Special tracks are fairly common and regularly come up second hand but usually are already fitted to a set of wheels.
If you are looking for pure off road field work you can also go down a more agricultural route and fit chevron tyres but that would then be almost unusable on the road. Of course it also depends on what/whos land you are driving on, as any of these tyres will make an enormous mess of a muddy field so it depends how much churning up you can get away with to get to your destination.

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Thanks very much. Some useful info there, and what a pretty Landy that is! Chevrons sure look good, even if they only feel good in a swamp :D

Siera and a few others helped point me in right direction. Short version....

I have a set of 8j 16" D2 alloys and a set of Grabbers (AT3) to go on them. That will be my full time normal use tyre which is 80/20 road off road. I also have another set of 16" wheels which are narrower (7j) plus my original 18" wheels. Since i have so many wheels, I thought I may as well set up 3 sets. 1 for general use round home, farms, local roads. Another set 18" have well worn road tyres on, but would do for a long motorway run if I could be bothered to swap over (doubt it if the grabbers are nice!), and then a final spare set of 7j 16" rims on which I thought I could just find a seriously aggressive set for ....... thats the question. Maybe the snow storms, or maybe beach and muddy field work. I understand these are two different things so I am still giving that some thought. Thanks again
 
john snoo said:
Thanks very much. Some useful info there, and what a pretty Landy that is! Chevrons sure look good, even if they only feel good in a swamp :D
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That image was pulled form google, it is running portal axles so don't get too many ideas!

I would ignore the snow side of things as your grabbers will handle the snow well and if you wanteed to improve in snow you would be looking at studded tyres.
Sand and mud require different types of tyres, sand you want as wide as possible which a 7j rim will not deliver, I would focus on the mud and just lower the pressure right down for sand work. in shwich case you want the most agressive tread pattern you can afford. insa turbo specal track are very common and very aggressive. Keep and eye out for a set of them would be my advice.
 
dag019 said:
That image was pulled form google, it is running portal axles so don't get too many ideas!

I would ignore the snow side of things as your grabbers will handle the snow well and if you wanteed to improve in snow you would be looking at studded tyres.
Sand and mud require different types of tyres, sand you want as wide as possible which a 7j rim will not deliver, I would focus on the mud and just lower the pressure right down for sand work. in shwich case you want the most agressive tread pattern you can afford. insa turbo specal track are very common and very aggressive. Keep and eye out for a set of them would be my advice.
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Are studded tyres legal in the UK?

Also depends on the type of snow. For compacted snow or icy snow, a good AT with lots of sipes in should work well. However in deep and/or fresh snow. An MT will generally perform a lot better. And of course if you are driving on mud/wet grass covered in snow the MT will be much better.

For sand an AT will work very well, as it will float on top better. An MT will dig in and require more power to maintain progress. Although this is likely more on dry sand dues and the like. It is is sand/sandy mud such as some parts of the UK. Overall an MT would be better I agree.
 
Thanks, thats that then. Will look out for Insa's, someone else has recommended those before some years ago now, forgot about them til you mentioned em.

thanks 300, yes muddy/sandy inlets more than than dry dunes. Sounds like mud tyres as my 'just in case' set will do nicely.
Just about to get my grabbers fitted in next day or two, can't wait. I did want BFG ATs but they don't do the size I wanted so GG will have to do, some say not as good, some say better. I will now do that confirmation bias thing and start telling everyone they are the best even if I don't have a clue and have never compared :D :D
 
The dynapros whilst are a MT arent much more aggressive than an AT. Good tyre but suitable for all round action.
 
john snoo said:
Thanks. Sorry yes it's for a 2004 D2 manual TD5.

I wasn't sure 245 would go on 7J wheels which is the wheels I have. If so, yep they look a good bet too, although I am looking for a cheap bargain on used fairl worn tyres as they are just a backup set for very rare use
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You want good, aggressive off road tires but want to get a worn set? Sounds a bit contradictory. I have KO2's on my P38 and it does fine off road.
 
if its mainly for on road winter/snow conditions then mud tyres arent the best. you want something with sipes in the tread, like the grabbers do
 
Gord Wedman said:
You want good, aggressive off road tires but want to get a worn set? Sounds a bit contradictory. I have KO2's on my P38 and it does fine off road.
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But this means nowt. As it depends what you are doing and on what kind of terrain.

And your use may not be remotely similar.
 
Insa Turbo special tracks get my vote,, have run them on my 90 every winter for last 5 years..

Got set with some BF Goodrich tyres in a field with a section 1 firearm on a boxing day...

had to walk home with the rifle over my shoulder,,

Vowed never again..so went to the special tracks

Have only been set once in 5 years with them and i have no lift just standard suspension
Noisy on the road, but you never want to get set on a shoot day....
 
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