4x4 Response Volunteers?

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jai_landrover said:
You need at least some brain power to do a methodical, safe and successful recovery none of which were displayed by these guys at P&P practising (Hell even the yellow beacons were flashing at a Fookin P&P!) Have a word! I walked off in discust rope lengths vehicle positioning and lots of saftey issues aswell as loving the winch when a rope and somone with some sense would have done the job faster safer and with far less faffing.
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Were they all wearing there Hi-Viz jackets aswell? :rolleyes: People like that really get on my nerves, don't know there arse from there elbow and think they are a gift from god.
 
Would you have to advise your insurance company if say you were helping hospital staff to and from work, on a none payment basis due to the snow?
 
Mseries3 said:
Were they all wearing there Hi-Viz jackets aswell? :rolleyes: People like that really get on my nerves, don't know there arse from there elbow and think they are a gift from god.
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Hell I have flashing amber lights fitted too but they will go on only if I think I've stopped in a dangerous place and or need to warn others of my presence. Not at every oportunity like these twots. Yellow jacket I believe some did and other had trainers and tracksuits!
 
Hippo said:
Would you have to advise your insurance company if say you were helping hospital staff to and from work, on a none payment basis due to the snow?
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Thanks for all the replies and PM's.
And, good point Hippo.

Yes, the phrase "Too many cooks" does spring to mind at p&p sites when I went for the first time, and I was hoping it wouldn't be the case with these groups/teams, but it seems it is:(

..Generally speaking, I'm just a newbie looking for advise, thoughts, and pointers, but it ****es me off when I'm advised/patronised by that element.....some of the **** people were saying at my first p&p experience was simply unbelievable to anyone with common sense
 
joe1972 said:
Thanks for all the replies and PM's.
And, good point Hippo.

Yes, the phrase "Too many cooks" does spring to mind at p&p sites when I went for the first time, and I was hoping it wouldn't be the case with these groups/teams, but it seems it is:(

..Generally speaking, I'm just a newbie looking for advise, thoughts, and pointers, but it ****es me off when I'm advised/patronised by that element.....some of the **** people were saying at my first p&p experience was simply unbelievable to anyone with common sense
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I think a helpful bit of advice I was told by a fantastic driver on a safety/ off road course who trains the army was simply,
"If it feels wrong, don't do it. And don't be drawn in by muppets."

I think he was right. You don't need someone to tell you trying to snatch a suzuki by putting a rope around the windscreen is wrong. (As I once saw. I just sat at the top of the hill about 25 yards away looking through the windscreen thinking what the hell are they doing.) Lets face it, if your intelligent enough to ask for advice you can probably get a long way on your own, just be careful who you get ideas from.
 
Would think your insurance company would want to know and we know the rest on that score = higher risk,higher premium.Wont get me doing it but if a neighbour was in trouble and needed the hospital or one of the elderly in the bungalows at the side of us needed me I would be there.Or if the fire,ambulance service were stuck on the road I would be there with a tow out.
 
I have pulled a few vehicles out with mine I do wear a Hi vis if im round here as it's country lanes and I have a flashing beacon which I use if i'm on a road especially if it's just round a bend but thinks thats the idea of them.
 
so basically people slag of 4x4 owners and there vehicles all year round,then the first bit of bad weather we get they want us all to be charitable and do our bit "for the comunity"

using our ,vehicles our insurance,our fuel,and the risk of breakages to our vehicles which no doubt we will have to pay for..

or is it just me being a bahh humbug?
 
wiltshire landyman said:
so basically people slag of 4x4 owners and there vehicles all year round,then the first bit of bad weather we get they want us all to be charitable and do our bit "for the comunity"

using our ,vehicles our insurance,our fuel,and the risk of breakages to our vehicles which no doubt we will have to pay for..

or is it just me being a bahh humbug?
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Ya covered by response's insurance and they usually pay ya fuel costs.

but you is still a miserable old fooker :D
 
les-goose said:
Would think your insurance company would want to know and we know the rest on that score = higher risk,higher premium.Wont get me doing it but if a neighbour was in trouble and needed the hospital or one of the elderly in the bungalows at the side of us needed me I would be there.Or if the fire,ambulance service were stuck on the road I would be there with a tow out.
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most member have no problems with their own insurers and are covered by the response groups insurance whilst on an offacial call out or training exercise.
 
wiltshire landyman said:
so basically people slag of 4x4 owners and there vehicles all year round,then the first bit of bad weather we get they want us all to be charitable and do our bit "for the comunity"

using our ,vehicles our insurance,our fuel,and the risk of breakages to our vehicles which no doubt we will have to pay for..

or is it just me being a bahh humbug?
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Hit the nail on head there, if it was that bad army would be called to help-my view is these response groups are glory hunters who like the **** taken out of them 11.5 months of the year.
 
Bloke over the road whos missus is a right grumpy cow moaning about the landies I have on me drive said jokingly this morning "Could do with borrowing one of those Landrovers". I laughed as him and his missus dug out their volkswagon golf.
 
Like most things though it's up the individual. If you pass a woman stranded on her own in the middle of no where should you help or not. A big part of you says you should be helping but what if it's a set up or if you damage their vehicle by snapped the tow point etc. how are you covered liability wise?

A debate that could go on forever.
 
Right have held me peace for long enough.

How the fook can you cuunts, who have never been members of a response group tell us what it's like be in a response group?? I take it you've alll been polishing ya balls and staring at em for hrs on end.

I spent nearly 2 years in HumberYorks 4x4 Response (now Yorkshire & Lincolnshire 4x4 response) and yes you get the occasional prat, as you do in any group. hey your all here aren't you.

But on the whole they are very professional highly motivated individuals providing a very professional and much needed service to the community FFS they can only act if called out by the county's emergency planning officer or a senior member of the police/ambulance/coastguard/mrt etc etc. These guys aren't gonna call a bunch of idiots out.

And as Rover rescue are affiliated members of the National 4x4response network and are in effect a 4x4reponse group working to the same rules and standards as every other 4x4response group fook knows why Jai is slagging off an organisation that he's a member of ?? http://www.brecklandlrc.com/roverrescue.html/ have a read..

so whilst I realise it is common for arseoles to spout off on topics about which they know fook all. Just this once if you don't have anything construictive to add then say fook all..
 
Where do people actually slag off 4x4 owners? I guess they do but in the real world I have never ever heard it. I drive an oil leaking noisy 110 and all my neighbours like us. Just saying. Can't say that I get ripped into for 11.5 months a year and then get asked for help.

Maybe I'm just ignorant to it
 
redhand said:
Right have held me peace for long enough.

How the fook can you cuunts, who have never been members of a response group tell us what it's like be in a response group?? I take it you've alll been polishing ya balls and staring at em for hrs on end.

I spent nearly 2 years in HumberYorks 4x4 Response (now Yorkshire & Lincolnshire 4x4 response) and yes you get the occasional prat, as you do in any group. hey your all here aren't you.

But on the whole they are very professional highly motivated individuals providing a very professional and much needed service to the community FFS they can only act if called out by the county's emergency planning officer or a senior member of the police/ambulance/coastguard/mrt etc etc. These guys aren't gonna call a bunch of idiots out.

And as Rover rescue are affiliated members of the National 4x4response network and are in effect a 4x4reponse group working to the same rules and standards as every other 4x4response group fook knows why Jai is slagging off an organisation that he's a member of ?? http://www.brecklandlrc.com/roverrescue.html/ have a read..

so whilst I realise it is common for arseoles to spout off on topics about which they know fook all. Just this once if you don't have anything construictive to add then say fook all..
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I've done recovery work and don't miss it at all-was it me you were aiming at?
 
jigsaw said:
I've done recovery work and don't miss it at all-was it me you were aiming at?
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Dunno have you been slagging the response groups if so then yes. doing recovery work is nothing like been in a response group your paid to do a completely different job. closest a response group will get to recovery will be towing stuck vehicles to the top of an icebound or snow blocked hill. they certainly aren't used for RTA.s or recovering broken down cars.
 
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