200tdi diff locks

dan_vtec said:

yeh i know that mate.

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Well you didn't appear to know that when you started the thread, mate

I think he has got it.

Cross axled and goin nowhere yea reminds me of years ago at a comp when nobody managed to get past the 4 gate! even the man laying out couldn't do it. Jai

And he swore he drove it the day before! Nope! Jai

I looked at the diff locks when I was looking for a Disco, but now that I've used mine a few times, I (as people have said here) think it's only if you do very extreme stuff!

I've taken mine out a few times and have been through some deep water, mud, clay.. and I haven't engaged diff lock or lows yet... do everything in highs.
The tyres make a huge difference when I compare where I get through easily and where my mate with a standard disco gets stuck.

I have Insa Turbo special tracks, in case you are wondering.

[JP];749274 said:

I looked at the diff locks when I was looking for a Disco, but now that I've used mine a few times, I (as people have said here) think it's only if you do very extreme stuff!

I've taken mine out a few times and have been through some deep water, mud, clay.. and I haven't engaged diff lock or lows yet... do everything in highs.
The tyres make a huge difference when I compare where I get through easily and where my mate with a standard disco gets stuck.

I have Insa Turbo special tracks, in case you are wondering.

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Get a wheel off the ground and you'll need em!

I've tried! but just ended up like this and the wheel still touching the ground..hehehe



And this one is coming out of some very muddy stuff!

[JP];749274 said:

I've taken mine out a few times and have been through some deep water, mud, clay.. and I haven't engaged diff lock or lows yet... do everything in highs.

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Be careful of, a) running in high in difficult sections, many (with respect) newbies find the car bogging and start to rev and slip the clutch to keep the car going which will shorten clutch life, use the low box as that is what it was designed for, and b) IF you are about to drive on SLIPPERY stuff it is a good idea to get the diff lock in early to help prevent you getting stuck in the first place.

ALWAYS GET THE DIFF LOCK LIGHT OUT BEFORE GOING ONTO HIGH TRACTION SURFACES!!!

You can engage/disengage the diff lock at any time as long as ALL the wheels are stationary or rotating at the SAME speed, never throw in the diff lock when trying to get through a section where you have a wheel spinning, the bang is quite loud but the screaming wallet is louder still!

Hope that helps with your disco fun.

regards

Dave

[JP];749274 said:

I looked at the diff locks when I was looking for a Disco, but now that I've used mine a few times, I (as people have said here) think it's only if you do very extreme stuff!

I've taken mine out a few times and have been through some deep water, mud, clay.. and I haven't engaged diff lock or lows yet... do everything in highs.
The tyres make a huge difference when I compare where I get through easily and where my mate with a standard disco gets stuck.

I have Insa Turbo special tracks, in case you are wondering.

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Sorry but High range and no difflock and you have never been stuck! Er ok! Keep doing what your doing it plainly works for you but every other experienced off road driver in the world is laughing. I bet you tow using lifting strops too! Jai

I'm in an arsy mood anyways. You have extreme tyres that would make you think you do extreme stuff Not engaging difflock when its slippery is just silly. You can do considerable damage to your sentre diff. Centre diffs are to be engaged and this will lock the front and rear propshafts together. not the only thing to worry about is cross axles or loosing grip on a front wheel and a rear wheel. If you do lock your difflock you could end up spinning one wheel and therefor your centre diff will be giving out 100% to one propshaft the axle (the one with least resistance) and 0 to the other. This will damage your centrer difflock! they are not designed for that ammount of differential. And it will get you stuck in very silly places and you risk the chance of us all laughing! Jai

I didn't say I go to pay and play sites and do extreme stuff, but that last pic shows some of the stuff I get through, usually deepish mud, swamp(ish) river crossings..etc
I think you have also lost that bet, because I tow with proper towing strops, bought from frog island.. you know, I'm not the kind of person who does a bodge job or sort something to get it going for the time being, I rather have to wait 1 month, with the disco stoped, to get the money together and buy something that is meant to do the job.
I could even be an experienced off road driver... you just dont know me do you?
I could even show you some videos, but just dont have the time to put it together....

Dave2000, thanks for the heads up and advice. I'm very aware of the clutch and as soon as it starts slipping I stop as there's no point of reving in the same place, just do a bit of rocking back and forwards and get it out...

When we go out we are not really concerned in getting stuck, that's why I never engage diff lock, just go in and see how it goes.. if I get stuck, the better!
the most fun we have is when someone gets stuck and then we have to take them out...

Just saw your post, you might have been writting while I was writing..

So far, I've found that the slippery stuff (where the people going with me struggle) I dont find it slippery.. the tyres just dig through it.
I'm not being big headed or anything, just relating what I've been experiencing... I have no point of showing off my off roads skills as it's not main hobby, just do it for a bit of fun.
I don't want to be better than everyone else.

I'm just saying that Its your risk. do whats ya doing iof it works for you go for it. Lol

Seen too many broken motas and a fair few hill decent rolls cos they were in high range or even no difflock. I have witnessed a lovley Defender almost new mabe a few weeks old in 05 he drove up a hill and got stuck front wheel spinning. No weight on it and he was going nowhere. He was told to put difflock in and keep it in low range leave it in till after the comp. Later that day he went to decend a moderate slope which was driven before hand by a couple of suzukis and a Lada Niva. The decent had a deep rut so a wheel was hanging in the air. The wheel was off the ground no difflock and apparently high range he came down far too quickly no control nearly taking out a fellow marshal and wrote off a lovley defender. Now i am mearly pointing out that you need to understand the workings and mechanics of your gearbox before attempting anything. If you know fair enough have fun. It just seems that anyone that knows how it works puts difflock in before hitting anything a bit tough and utilizes low range to get a more suitable range of gears for the terrain to be crossed. If you find that high range is working good luck to ya! Jai

Well, when I go on steep downhill bits I use lows and of course don't touch the brakes... and if it starts to slide, accelarate and dont touch the brakes ever..

Diff lock, I was told to use only when it's slippery, never ever use it when the ground is solid..

Am I correct on these two sentences?
genuine questions, sometimes I'm overly carefull and like to double check all that I read about with more experienced people.

or is it lows for going downhill on solid ground....
and lows and diff lock to go downhill on slippery stuff?

[JP];749395 said:

Well, when I go on steep downhill bits I use lows and of course don't touch the brakes... and if it starts to slide, accelarate and dont touch the brakes ever..

Diff lock, I was told to use only when it's slippery, never ever use it when the ground is solid..

Am I correct on these two sentences?
genuine questions, sometimes I'm overly carefull and like to double check all that I read about with more experienced people.

or is it lows for going downhill on solid ground....
and lows and diff lock to go downhill on slippery stuff?

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low i use all the time off road cos everything happens slower and more contrably(is that a wurd?).A slope may have firm ground with lots of grip, however you may not get grip because of the way weight is distributed by the car so i would use difflock in this case.Although ive got a VC

So is not a problem to use the diff lock on firm ground?
I've always been told that would damage the diffs? now i'm getting confused.. lol

[JP];749398 said:

So is not a problem to use the diff lock on firm ground?
I've always been told that would damage the diffs? now i'm getting confused.. lol

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If theres a chance of losing grip engage the dif lock-prior to neeeding it.If that means driving up a 15ft embankmant or a mile long muddy lane.The slipping of the wheels will result in no "wind up" of the diff.If you are in low range you wont be going fast any way.If you do have grip and you travel a short distance it wouldnt be a problem either.Im always on laning trips where people in front or behind stop-I assume the worst and then their off again!Just changing hi-to and diff lock on-off.:doh:

Oo right, so short distances won't be a problem.. alrite, got it now.

I'll need to sort out some videos and put it here, maybe what I consider deep and very muddy, for some people is just a play in the park..lol

A picture is not really good, but the pic below.. would you guys go in with diff locks on?

Because I kept going back and forwards just on highs and almost with no accelaration, just gently accelarating when I could feel I was going over a slightly higher bump..

you should put vids up any way!
If in doubt (of grip)put it in diff lock.If there is grip to be had then this is the best way to get it.If there none to be had-ya wont on ice etc.