P38A Front Suspension - "wobbles"

[brianp38dse]

Dont bother trying to press the old bushes out run a drill bit through the bush a couple of times just catching the inside of plastic outer and you should be able to collapse the outer and hook them out with a screw driver.

 

[Frank_38]

Good morning everyone,
I bought a hydraulic press - 6 tons.
I thought it would make it totally relaxed. won't it work?

 

[kermit_rr]

Dont bother trying to press the old bushes out run a drill bit through the bush a couple of times just catching the inside of plastic outer and you should be able to collapse the outer and hook them out with a screw driver.

When i did mine it took significantly more effort to get the old ones out. Lots of cutting, drilling and hammering with a big chisel

 

[Frank_38]

Good, I am motivated. I have cleaned the arm a little. I'll paint it later.
This is how I imagined my action. Will it work? somehow my press seems puny.
"Nothing is aligned in the picture yet"

 

[kermit_rr]

Doesn't the adapter go the other way up? You want to press on the edge, not the middle

 

[pwood999]

I also used the "drill near to the plastic outer method". Much easier than trying to press the old bushes out.

You will definitely need either the proper tool, or several jubilie clamps & the taper bearing for the new bushes.

 

[pwood999]

Good, I am motivated. I have cleaned the arm a little. I'll paint it later.
This is how I imagined my action. Will it work? somehow my press seems puny.
"Nothing is aligned in the picture yet"

That's not a press tool. It looks like its from a brake wind back kit ?

 

[Frank_38]

Doesn't the adapter go the other way up? You want to press on the edge, not the middle

yes, I also have the right adapter with a hole in the middle. It is a simple press for 100 EUR.
Has anyone ever tried a 6 ton press?

 

[Frank_38]

Unbelievable!
that worked wonderfully with the press. It took less than 2 minutes and the bushes were out.
I thought too much about it.

Thanks to everyone for the support!!!

 

[Mark Piercy]

Unbelievable!
that worked wonderfully with the press. It took less than 2 minutes and the bushes were out.
I thought too much about it.

Thanks to everyone for the support!!!

Now you've got to get the new ever-so-slightly larger ones in

 

[RangeRoller dt]

Your preparation payed off, it can be a pig of a job. Well done

 

[Frank_38]

Good evening everyone,

One more question:
The red marking is black - probably the remains of the other control arm bush. Should I sand off the black or just leave it as it is?

 

[kermit_rr]

Just get all the muck and dirt off, the black looks like a finish to me

 

[Mark Piercy]

Once you get that other bush off there clean it all up with no traces of the old rubber

 

[Frank_38]

Hello everyone,
ok, the first attempt has failed. I have destroyed the bush. I have 3 more attempts.
It started well, the first 2-3 mm - then tilted and the plastic ‘inflated’.
Then i carried out further tests with the broken bushing.
The press is absolutely ok, has enough power, I'm sure of that.
Aligning it perfectly is the problem. I thought I would also use the ‘’ sleeve ‘’ for the next test. Will it do any good? I would be grateful for any tips - I need the car tomorrow.

the new bushes also seem too big to me, but apparently that's the way it has to be.

I have read several times that you should put the bushings in the freezer beforehand??

 

[pwood999]

Did you chamfer / bevel the end of the bush plastic outer ? If not it's difficult / impossible to even get it started.

Ring compressor is a good idea, but with jubilee clamps you can remove them one at a time as the bush goes in.

 

[Mark Piercy]

And grease the hole and bush sides

 

[Datatek]

Definitely put the bushes in the freezer overnight and if you have an electric het gun, warm up the housing a bit.

 

[Frank_38]

Thanks for the feedback!
The socket already has a ‘chamfer / bevel’ on one side - marked in red. Is that not enough? Should I remove more?
I have the matching ‘jubilee clamps’ - I'll fit them tomorrow.

I've used multi-purpose grease - I hope that's ok.

Looking forward to tomorrow! Thank you very much!

 

[pwood999]

When I did mine I did the chamfer about 5-6mm. Next I do some, I plan to buy one of those taper bearing races (unless someone nearby has the LR tool).