Discodevon said:
I will be getting a remap from storm, just need to get the right size SD card and I’m good to go... it’s nice to hear everyone’s opinion and I’m very grateful for that... Dan at storm has just confirmed that I have the later ecu nnn500020.. And for stage two would need to up the turbo pressure a bit which I’m not to worried about now thanks to banks.. let’s see how it goes I’m quite excited chaps
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You wont regret it bud! I have absolutely no idea why people (like in Landy mags) feel like they need to rave about how good a standard td5 is, because I think they are total dump.

After the remap, unbelievable though! You can drive mine like a v8, slowly and gently up through the gears and be in top at 25mph, no worries! :)

When Mike came to remap mine we thought he was going to have to re solder a chip into my early ecu, but upon inspection found that mine had been replaced with an 04 ecu so was plug-in-able. He still charged me the high rate of £250 as opposed to £225, but there you go!
 
Gottschalk said:
You wont regret it bud! I have absolutely no idea why people (like in Landy mags) feel like they need to rave about how good a standard td5 is, because I think they are total dump.

After the remap, unbelievable though! You can drive mine like a v8, slowly and gently up through the gears and be in top at 25mph, no worries! :)

When Mike came to remap mine we thought he was going to have to re solder a chip into my early ecu, but upon inspection found that mine had been replaced with an 04 ecu so was plug-in-able. He still charged me the high rate of £250 as opposed to £225, but there you go!
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I’ll let you know how is goes mate that was awsome you had a later Ecu! Wonder why he still charged full whack in that case? Did you up the boost on yours?
 
@Discodevon

No mate, I didn't/havent done anything except servicing it every 5 thou!

I did put a straight pipe on for a bit, which was awesome for noise, and the turbo wizzed up quicker and was a bit better on juice, but under hard acceleration up a steep incline, or towing vigorously, it kept going into a limp sort of mode (I think overboost) and then I couldn't accelerate over 50mph! It kept happening and I had to drive it overly gently for I not to overboost, so I ended up re fitting the original silencer, and for some reason this cured everything, it physically wont go into overboost now which is great as I didn't want to fiddle around with the rod length on the acutator (I like keeping everything as standard as possible).
It also puffed out a fair bit of black smoke (I presume unburnt diesel) with the straight pipe on, now it doesn't (probably because the standard mid box is so restrictive)...ive heard you can cure this by fitting a bigger intercooler but at circa £400 I cant justify it, also it would be burning hotter with a bigger intercooler so another reason for me to avoid one!
 
He also charged me full whack because that's what he quoted on the phone before hand when he thought he would gave to re solder the chip, I was quite young and keen and I guess i didn't want to say "shall I pay the lesser rate then", I should of, and would do now. You live and learn I guess! :)
 
Gottschalk said:
He also charged me full whack because that's what he quoted on the phone before hand when he thought he would gave to re solder the chip, I was quite young and keen and I guess i didn't want to say "shall I pay the lesser rate then", I should of, and would do now. You live and learn I guess! :)
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I think he charges £250 but doesn't charge extra if he has to solder anything, at least that was the case with me. He's good enough at what he does not to worry about £25 though ;) I had thought about others such as Alive, Storm etc but really they don't do anything that Mike doesn't. Alive have a rolling road but they can't put motors with off road wheels on it so they're only going to remap it, drive it, adjust it etc just the same as Mike. He also knows what is sensible for your motor in the long term, and I get the impression that others may overdo it to give you the wow factor when you get in it.

Mastaz is good one if you are going for off the shelf stuff, and he's also doing the switchable ECU's now which run two fuel maps.
 
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Cheers gentlemen, going to get an sd card tonight to get this sorted... I always look at the videos and storm stage 2 doesn’t cause much smoke by the looks of it which is always nice to see... other remaps don’t touch the turbo but smoke like like bugger, but we will see... I can always save my current standard map and put that back on again If needs be... and of course put the turbo back to how is was... I’ll look on the nanocom at the temp and watch it like a hawk lol!
 
sierrafery said:
you should explain that cos it hasn't much logic
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Well yes it does. The entire point of an intercooler is increase the density and coolness of the air as the colder the air the bigger the combustion explosion.

You don't get more power, or a bigger 'bang' without increasing the internal temperature
 
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tom1979 said:
I think he charges £250 but doesn't charge extra if he has to solder anything, at least that was the case with me. He's good enough at what he does not to worry about £25 though ;) I had thought about others such as Alive, Storm etc but really they don't do anything that Mike doesn't. Alive have a rolling road but they can't put motors with off road wheels on it so they're only going to remap it, drive it, adjust it etc just the same as Mike. He also knows what is sensible for your motor in the long term, and I get the impression that others may overdo it to give you the wow factor when you get in it.

Mastaz is good one if you are going for off the shelf stuff, and he's also doing the switchable ECU's now which run two fuel maps.
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That wasn't the situation with me.
He quoted me £225 for a standard plug in ecu, if he had to solder a chip in (like he thought he'd have to with my ecu) it was an extra £25. Upon discovering mine was a later one he still accepted the £250 rather than say otherwise. As I previously said, I'm not overly fussed, more of an observation than anything else, and something that irritates me about myself....rather than slating Mike.
 
Gottschalk said:
Well yes it does. The entire point of an intercooler is increase the density and coolness of the air as the colder the air the bigger the combustion explosion.
You don't get more power, or a bigger 'bang' without increasing the internal temperature
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I agree with the bolded part but that doesnt mean that a Td5 with a bigger intercooler would run hotter than one with a std one as it uses the IAT amongst other sensor readings in the fuelling addaptive strategy... to achieve the same power on the same engine there will not be more heat just that the power will be reached faster/easyer with a more optimal combustion and less throttle ... so the statement that an engine runs hotter with a bigger intercooler IMO is not valid unless we consider that it runs with more power too, not at the same power ... my EGT also dropped a bit after i fitted the larger intercooler cos i needed less throttle to get to the desired power.
 
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sierrafery said:
I agree with the bolded part but that doesnt mean that a Td5 with a bigger intercooler would run hotter than one with a std one as it uses the IAT amongst other sensor readings in the fuelling addaptive strategy... to achieve the same power on the same engine there will not be more heat just that the power will be reached faster/easyer with a more optimal combustion and less throttle ... so the statement that an engine runs hotter with a bigger intercooler IMO is not valid unless we consider that it runs with more power too, not at the same power ... my EGT also dropped a bit after i fitted the larger intercooler cos i needed less throttle to get to the desired power.
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That's interesting about egt dropping after fitting your intercooler.

When I mean more power in talking about the vehicles like mine, and most on here that ARE running more power, and I can guess that the vast majority who have a remap AND upgrade the intercooler are solely looking for more power. Hence my statement.

Also there a four guys here locally that have remaps and larger intercoolers', and ALL have had head shifting, exhaust manifold warping problems. I've been running mine without touching any mechanical aspects I.e turbo actuator, or getting one of those (in my opinion) awful boost boxs, that tricks the ecu into thinking there is less boost than what there is in reality....etc etc, and I've run the standard intercooler and been extra rigorous with service schedules and mine runs fine....i know this isn't a conclusive argument as I have no idea how the other chaps drive theirs, but I have to go on what I've observed and logical thinking.... :)
 
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Also there a four guys here locally that have remaps and larger intercoolers', and ALL have had head shifting, exhaust manifold warping problems.
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I'd be curious to know what size of tyres they have ... cos if they run bigger tyres all those problems are the result of that not of the larger intercooler cos as i explained in other post i didnt do anything else just fitted bigger and heavyer tyres and the EGT grow with up to 250*C, from max 650 on standard tyres(with the large intercooler already fitrted) to spikes of 900 with the bigger ones uphill and constantly higher with 100 on motorway(from 400 to 500) ... these are facts seen with my own eyes
 
sierrafery said:
I'd be curious to know what size of tyres they have ... cos if they run bigger tyres all those problems are the result of that not of the larger intercooler cos as i explained in other post i didnt do anything else just fitted bigger and heavyer tyres and the EGT grow with up to 250*C, from max 650 on standard tyres(with the large intercooler already fitrted) to spikes of 900 with the bigger ones uphill and constantly higher with 100 on motorway(from 400 to 500) ... these are facts seen with my own eyes
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I would never have considered tyre size as a factor in increased egt unless you had mentioned it. Is this due to the engine working harder?

I run 33” adventuros and discovery gearing in a Defender and do not get EGT above 600 with map reading 239 at max and dynachip remap
 
i run 33” adventuros and discovery gearing in a Defender and do not get EGT above 600 with map reading 239 at max and dynachip remap
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is that on motorway or uphill accelerating? ... where is your EGT probe fitted?

Is this due to the engine working harder?
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IMO it's because the VSS is not reaching the expected value for the inputs of the other sensors at a certain driver demand then the ECU increases fuelling, like when you are towing so you can say it's working harder... also te defender is 350kg lighter as standard and my D2 has additional 150kg all the time due to heavy bumpers and the boot loaded(so my D2 is maybe 500kg heavier from start)
 
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sierrafery said:
is that on motorway or uphill accelerating? ... where is your EGT probe fitted?



IMO it's because the VSS is not reaching the expected value for the inputs of the other sensors at a certain driver demand then the ECU increases fuelling, like when you are towing... also te defender is 350kg lighter as standard and my D2 has additional 150kg all the time due to heavy bumpers and the boot loaded(so my D2 is maybe 500kg heavier from start)
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Flat out for a prolonged period of time it may go a lot higher but how often do you boot it for prolonged periods of time. My egt probe is in the egr blanking plate as I didn’t want to drill the manifold, not ideal but better than not having one
 
You dont need prolonged period uphill with full throttle to make the EGT grow with 250 degrees, 30 seconds are enough... as i said mine is around 400 on motorway with steady throttle and goes up to 650 uphill (with the standard tyres)
 
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You dont need prolonged period uphill with full throttle to make the EGT grow with 250 degrees, 30 seconds are enough... as i said mine is around 400 on motorway with steady throttle and goes up to 650 uphill (with the standard tyres)
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Your egt probe is probably somewhere better than the egr blanking plate though, I’ve no idea what difference that makes
 
No, it's also there
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I remember when I installed it people said it needs to go further down the manifold otherwise the readings won't be accurate. At the time I didn't really want to be drilling the manifold I'd just had skimmed so got an EGR blanking plate pre-tapped. That looks like an ideal place for the coolant temp sender for a proper gauge.

Going back to these boost box things, a lot of tuners like Alive are saying they are not needed anymore as it is done within the fuel map file. Surely if the MAP reading is limited this will affect or limit fuel delivery? According the RAVE the MAP signal is used :

• To calculate the delivered fuel limits.

• To calculate the air mass in the cylinder.

• To calculate the air speed density.

• To calculate the air temperature.
 
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