The chap claims stage two is 180bhp to 195bhp depending on boost etc I am tempted in all fairness but I don’t want to fiddle with the turbo at all really
 
Its fine to up the boost to 18psi without any issues at all. Its worth doing. Any higher and you need the boost limit raised + uprated MAP or a boost box (not a fan imo)

Im not saying 240bhp isnt possible but its pointless, past around ~200bhp the cost vs bhp gain becomes too great and becomes cheaper and more reliable to fit a V8
 
Discodevon said:
Did you up the boost on yours?
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I took mine down to Daniel and he done it all for me, didn't have a Nanocom back then and I hadn't done that much engine work so didn't want to mess anything up.
bankz5152 said:
Its fine to up the boost to 18psi without any issues at all. Its worth doing. Any higher and you need the boost limit raised + uprated MAP or a boost box (not a fan imo)

Im not saying 240bhp isnt possible but its pointless, past around ~200bhp the cost vs bhp gain becomes too great and becomes cheaper and more reliable to fit a V8
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Yeah that's fair enough, I've not seen a dump but it certainly looks faster than my stage 2!
 
Talking of remaps, I had an ecu last year from a well known eBay remap ecu supplier. Unbeknown to me at the time my td5 was seriously overboosting but the ecu knew nothing of it due to the map sensor maxing out at 173kpa (due to wrong engine harness by previous owner). What are the long term effects of this on an engine ? It never (according to the lying temp gauge) over heated but surely it can’t do them any good
 
bankz5152 said:
Its fine to up the boost to 18psi without any issues at all. Its worth doing. Any higher and you need the boost limit raised + uprated MAP or a boost box (not a fan imo)

Im not saying 240bhp isnt possible but its pointless, past around ~200bhp the cost vs bhp gain becomes too great and becomes cheaper and more reliable to fit a V8
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Banks are you saying it wouldn’t hurt my engine too much to up the boost if I go for the remap?
 
Itll be fine but you need to monitor the boost to see what is happening via a boost gaugr or a nanocom.

18psi is the "safe" limit
 
In 3rd gear uphill under load with a stage 2 map from storm you want between 1.30-1.35 bar of boost. I've adjusted mine so I get 1.35 and never more. No issues and pulls like crazy!
 
I think I may take the plunge and get a remap... quite happy with how she is running at the moment but she is 13 years old now so not new by all means... does anyone know if it’s hard to record live data so I can send it off to storm tuning?

All the best
 
Discodevon said:
I think I may take the plunge and get a remap... quite happy with how she is running at the moment but she is 13 years old now so not new by all means... does anyone know if it’s hard to record live data so I can send it off to storm tuning?

All the best
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I've never had to do it on mine but you need an SD card, 2gb-4gb. Then I think it's something to do with the blue SD card button on screen but don't quote me on that. Daniel will explain it better!
 
Just be aware that the OBD remap can be done only on NNN ECUs, if it's MSB the chip must be replaced and IMO it's no gain to put a NNN ECU into a vehicle which was originally fitted with MSB
 
johnlad said:
Can’t see why you’d prefer to send the ecu off when Mike at Dynachip comes to you and all at a very reasonable cost.
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Everyone always sounds off about not getting a 'plug-in and play' chip, or a standard chip because they are just a generic map/maps that you can choose between, and they don't take into account engine discrepancies etc, but neither does a dynachip re-map.

I have a dynachip remap that has transformed the vehicle, but all mike did in regards to 'checking' the engine was plug his fault code reader and clear the faults. We didn't even run it to see if any faults came back before he did the remap. The remap was just a generic map, that had a better torque curve to it, bit it was still a generic map.

All a remap is doing is changing the ignition timing and therefore fueling...so surely this is what a plug in and play chip is doing?

Im genuinely interested to know what the difference is?

I wanted an IRB developments remap as they seem a cut above and are highly recommended, however getting hold of them is nigh on impossible!
 
Gottschalk said:
Everyone always sounds off about not getting a 'plug-in and play' chip, or a standard chip because they are just a generic map/maps that you can choose between, and they don't take into account engine discrepancies etc,
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A plug in "power box" is tricking the ECU with false inputs which will make it to deliver more power and in all the cases i've seen the EGT was increased, it has nothing to do with the fuel map so a name like "chip tuning" for a device like that is a lie, it's not remapping any chip nor contains any fuel map it just mixes up the inputs which the ECU uses for fuelling while the ECU works with the same fuelling data saved in it's EEPROM but will manage the engine based on some altered inputs...

if you mean ''plug and play" remapped chip to swap the chip in the ECU it's a different story even though it's not simply plug and play at first cos you have to unsolder the original chip and fit in a socket for the new chip

a profesional remap will work in the EEPROM and modify values within the fuel map as to optimise the engine's performance using real inputs from the sensors and injectors, a "new generation" remap(which is lately used by most serious providers) will modify the AFR, smoke limiters, torque limiters, IQ, etc., all in conjunction to get the best performance ... IMO it's a huge difference between a ''plug and play" external device and a well made remap
 
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Gottschalk said:
Everyone always sounds off about not getting a 'plug-in and play' chip, or a standard chip because they are just a generic map/maps that you can choose between, and they don't take into account engine discrepancies etc, but neither does a dynachip re-map.

I have a dynachip remap that has transformed the vehicle, but all mike did in regards to 'checking' the engine was plug his fault code reader and clear the faults. We didn't even run it to see if any faults came back before he did the remap. The remap was just a generic map, that had a better torque curve to it, bit it was still a generic map.

All a remap is doing is changing the ignition timing and therefore fueling...so surely this is what a plug in and play chip is doing?

Im genuinely interested to know what the difference is?

I wanted an IRB developments remap as they seem a cut above and are highly recommended, however getting hold of them is nigh on impossible!
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I’ve had a few maps off Mike at Dynachip including a 200 bhp one and in all cases he showed the fuel parameters and other settings on his laptop then adjusted the fuel graph, we took it for a thrash and altered settings as we deemed necessary until we were happy with the outcome, then had another run, checked for faults and job done. I’d say that’s a bespoke map, which is more than can be done with plug and play or generic maps, all inclusive of his travelling to you £225,
 
sierrafery said:
A plug in "power box" is tricking the ECU with false inputs which will make it to deliver more power and in all the cases i've seen the EGT was increased, it has nothing to do with the fuel map so a name like "chip tuning" for a device like that is a lie, it's not remapping any chip nor contains any fuel map it just mixes up the inputs which the ECU uses for fuelling while the ECU works with the same fuelling data saved in it's EEPROM but will manage the engine based on some altered inputs...

if you mean ''plug and play" remapped chip to swap the chip in the ECU it's a different story even though it's not simply plug and play at first cos you have to unsolder the original chip and fit in a socket for the new chip

a profesional remap will work in the EEPROM and modify values within the fuel map as to optimise the engine's performance using real inputs from the sensors and injectors, a "new generation" remap(which is lately used by most serious providers) will modify the AFR, smoke limiters, torque limiters, IQ, etc., all in conjunction to get the best performance ... IMO it's a huge difference between a ''plug and play" external device and a well made remap
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Thanks for the reply mate, very informative. In regards to plug in and play, I was meaning the little box's that you plug in to the ecu and have something like six different settings etc.

Thanks for clearing that up , its something I've wondered about for a while now! :)
 
johnlad said:
I’ve had a few maps off Mike at Dynachip including a 200 bhp one and in all cases he showed the fuel parameters and other settings on his laptop then adjusted the fuel graph, we took it for a thrash and altered settings as we deemed necessary until we were happy with the outcome, then had another run, checked for faults and job done. I’d say that’s a bespoke map, which is more than can be done with plug and play or generic maps, all inclusive of his travelling to you £225,
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Cheers for the reply mate!
Mike didn't do anything like that with me, just asked what I used the vehicle for and then gave me a 'strong' map to increase torque (I tow plant and heavy trailers regularly), but we didn't check any fuel parameters or any checks really, maybe I should of suggested that we did....however I have no complaints, its transformed the 90 and is brilliant!
 
I will be getting a remap from storm, just need to get the right size SD card and I’m good to go... it’s nice to hear everyone’s opinion and I’m very grateful for that... Dan at storm has just confirmed that I have the later ecu nnn500020.. And for stage two would need to up the turbo pressure a bit which I’m not to worried about now thanks to banks.. let’s see how it goes I’m quite excited chaps
 
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sierrafery said:
A plug in "power box" is tricking the ECU with false inputs which will make it to deliver more power and in all the cases i've seen the EGT was increased, it has nothing to do with the fuel map so a name like "chip tuning" for a device like that is a lie, it's not remapping any chip nor contains any fuel map it just mixes up the inputs which the ECU uses for fuelling while the ECU works with the same fuelling data saved in it's EEPROM but will manage the engine based on some altered inputs...

if you mean ''plug and play" remapped chip to swap the chip in the ECU it's a different story even though it's not simply plug and play at first cos you have to unsolder the original chip and fit in a socket for the new chip

a profesional remap will work in the EEPROM and modify values within the fuel map as to optimise the engine's performance using real inputs from the sensors and injectors, a "new generation" remap(which is lately used by most serious providers) will modify the AFR, smoke limiters, torque limiters, IQ, etc., all in conjunction to get the best performance ... IMO it's a huge difference between a ''plug and play" external device and a well made remap
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That was very informative SF thanks and all the best to you
 
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