cooltide
sheep fancier
Silly, you'd need the whole farmer's socket setOr just your bare feet and a worn out 15mm spanner
I think you're being harsh on yourself there. Perhaps underestimating the gradient and the traction available from your landy in the conditions. However, we can all get that wrong in the myriad of situations that can occur. As James Martin has been saying, it's a large part of human nature to try and help out in times of other's distress. This time of year we often hear of people dying in half frozen ponds trying to rescue dogs! Bloody dog usually climbs out the other side! I think you and the other members who turned out are absolute diamonds and if I breakdown in your neck of the woods I'd be over the moon if it was you lot turning up to help. For me, the crucial difference is that I have an understanding of you from LZ and that would affect my decision making in any communications we had at the time. That doesn't mean I wouldn't help a 1 time poster, but I would approach someone in that instance differently. I've pulled people out and through snow that I didn't even know, again I think it's in most people's nature to help others in need. I would put myself out a bit for a stranger, but would go the extra miles needed for someone I had an affiliation with. The way I see it is that Our Forum and Us as a collective were conned by the OP. It's just that it happened where it did. It would have been other members in the same situation if it had happened somewhere else in the country. No ones fault, we just got had by a shyster. It's taught us all to be a little more cautious, especially for someone who has just signed up to our forum.
Iancorky
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cooltide
sheep fancier
cooltide
sheep fancier
Obviously an arable type. If she can't stitch a prolapse, she can jog on
brian47
Well-Known Member
Yep, a good suggestion, but...........
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Somebody would still have to have got there and got out again!
doriz
Well-Known Member
See post 285, some things can be lived with
Is she in your house, cos it looks like your kangaroo is mounted a little further along that wall?
allan downes
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I was just thinking. Does it mean i can now qualify for a lzir sticker.
yeah
if yu can find one
if yu can find one
neilly
Well-Known Member
Oh, Yeah now it shows....tis all about the sticker...............................................LOL
Cheers
allan downes
Well-Known Member
I know. Lol.
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
neilly
Well-Known Member
Yeah but no but yeah but...
Tis all about the sandals.....................LOL..............Happy New Year BB and MHM......Cheers
brian47
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My last words on the recent CR-V incident.
Hindsight is as they say “20/20 vision”, so with the benefit of hindsight I’ll try to look at a few mistakes.
First, as many have said there was the poor information provided by the person requesting assistance, There’s a great deal of difference between the first message of “I’m stuck near Swansea” or the next indications saying that he had a Honda CR-V and he had dropped off a track and a 4x4 should be able to pull him out and what transpired as his vehicle was not just off-road but off-piste and at the bottom of a 45 degree drop, not just a slight incline. As the requester had said.
Which brings me to the first couple of mistakes:-
- Taking the requester’s version of events as the truth
- Assuming that the requester had already walked the route when he first left his vehicle and informed me that it was OK for my Disco, this included such “advice” as “It’s just over this little dip”.
- Assuming that anywhere that a CR-V could go, a Discovery could go. As it happened, getting there was the easy bit.
First off, everybody is going to think that this is about the vehicle, and yes, primarily it is but not just the health of the vehicle and the state of the available equipment, but also the health of the driver. Like so many people, I still refuse to grow old, but as the events showed, I’m not as fit as I used to be, being totally honest, I probably wouldn’t have been able to walk the entire route, or keep my feet had I tried. So before I attempt anything like that in the future would somebody please slap me across the chops and remind me of this incident.
Another mistake by me was to assume it would be a quick in and out, and based on the available information, that’s how it looked so I wasn’t prepared with wet weather gear, just a pair of trainers and jogging trousers, which did get wet resulting in me having to sit in the vehicle for longer than I have ever done before with my legs just feeling more and more uncomfortable from the cold. So when you’re considering your preparedness for an incident, consider whether you are physically able to handle the job too, obviously I was not.
I have turned out in the past to Disco owners stuck for a fault which could be cleared with a Nanocom, and I will continue to do so if ever I’m asked, likewise I’d turn out to help convey people to a warm and safe environment while the recovery of the vehicle is handled by others. I might even turn out should a member requiring assistance with a "vehicle anchor" for winching, but considering what my Discovery is equipped for and what it’s capable of, I don’t think I’ll ever contemplate turning out as the number 1 vehicle on a recovery again.
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Can't fault what you say. As I said earlier, there are discussions going on that sort of mirror some of what you said ..
