Dartmoor Navigator
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Yup, you’d need a miners lamp and stout bit of rope to go delving into some of the bags in there.
Nodge68
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I have a smaller light bar wired to come on with main beam.
Why should being able to see safely on a dark road get someone into trouble, especially when it's perfectly legal to have auxiliary lights.
er no. More like LOOK I CAN SEE.
Nodge68
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Good for you. Now drive off road in the poring rain, trying to avoid stumps and low branches on standard main beams, then see how you get on.
because they flood the area in front of the vehicle with bright white light. It makes driving safer, so what's wrong with that.
There are rules about fog lights, because those are switched on when other vehicles are about.
Auxiliary light bars are wired into the main beam circuit, so are off until main beams are selected.
Nodge68
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The rules are clear about auxiliary lights.
Auxiliary lights should be wired to main beams only. This makes sure they're off, unless main beam is on.
That's illegal as they don't extinguish automatically.
They won't blind anyone if they're used correctly.
Modern LED lighting on cars is much worse at blinding on coming traffic, by comparison to correctly used light bars.
My LED bar looks neat and does plenty to keep me seeing safely when I need it.
I agree, but modern-day LED headlights are more dangerous, as they're more widespread than the odd 4x4 with a light bar.
Absolutely, although I drive slowly.
Agreed.
exactly.
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
I put a couple of spots on the roof rack of me 109 wired to mains but only cuz I have a small winkie Dint like the bonnet glare much so I put a switch in between main beam and spot relay and rarely used them.
Me ambulance has bumper spots as standard and they're great aimed slightly lower and wider than main beam. I can see more, not any further but how fast do you think I'm gonna go with her fat arse wobbling about?
Dint like the bonnet glare much so I put a switch in between main beam and spot relay and rarely used them.Me ambulance has bumper spots as standard and they're great aimed slightly lower and wider than main beam. I can see more, not any further but how fast do you think I'm gonna go with her fat arse wobbling about?
Nodge68
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Absolutely. IMO LED lighting bars used correctly are much safer than those horrible blue tinted and illegal HID conversion bulbs that Golf driver's seem to like fitting to there lights these days. Those HID conversion bulbs are bloody lethal to oncoming road users.
owas
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When I first started driving a few years ago I honestly thought there was something wrong with my eyes driving at night and people's headlights
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Ok then... if eggstra lights have to switch oft when the high beam switches oft... how about this as an alternative:
Eggstra lights have some cross coupled relays with a press to make switch to turn them on when the high beam is on. They're then latched on by their own relay contact. Switch won't do anything when the high beam is oft. A push to break switch wired int series with said relay coil to switch oft the eggstra lights whenever they're on.
The above would allow yer to drive normally and flash someone without the eggstra lights automatically coming on with the high beam. If yer do want the eggstra lights on with yer high beam then yer switch on the high beam, then press and release the on switch... eggstra lights now come on. When yer want them oft either press the oft switch or turn oft the high beam.
Eggstra lights have some cross coupled relays with a press to make switch to turn them on when the high beam is on. They're then latched on by their own relay contact. Switch won't do anything when the high beam is oft. A push to break switch wired int series with said relay coil to switch oft the eggstra lights whenever they're on.
The above would allow yer to drive normally and flash someone without the eggstra lights automatically coming on with the high beam. If yer do want the eggstra lights on with yer high beam then yer switch on the high beam, then press and release the on switch... eggstra lights now come on. When yer want them oft either press the oft switch or turn oft the high beam.
Hippo
Lord Hippo
I get a similar problem. When I was a nipper I always wondered how drivers could see at night as the headlights coming towards yer are so bright. The optician told me my eyes are more light sensitive than most, which is why they tend to blind me more than others.When I first started driving a few years ago I honestly thought there was something wrong with my eyes driving at night and people's headlights
When I was on the roof there were a few cars going past with light bars lit. Local chavs ont parade. I knew they were coming because of the eggsauce noise. It's only when yer up high looking down yer realise just how bright these light bars are. The road is well lit by lamp posts so there's no need to have the bars on but the fekers get away with it. They lit the roof up anorl.
mick 1986
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Why over complicate things? Put a standard SPDT on the main beam feed to the aux lights relay.
Switch on + Main beam = main + aux
Switch off + main beam = main only
Hippo
Lord Hippo
There's lots of options to do it. As long as they don't dazzle me am happy.
The good news is the local chav won't be driving for a while.
freelance
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As long as they can only ever be lit with main beam circuit, jobs a goodun
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Not ideal for me. My circuit switches oft the eggstra lights if you:
switch them oft
or switch the high beam oft
or switch the engine oft
That way the next time yer put the high beam ont, or flash someone, the eggstra lights stay oft automatically. Yer have to choose to power them up again when high beam is ont if yer want them ont. A relay and switch int series won't do that. Yer could leave it in the wrong position ready to put them on during a flash.
KISSMYAURA
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This is what happens when people get bullied at school and join the police.
Wish them luck trying to prove any offence, bluff and scare tactic, total bollocks.
If i see you again................ yea right PMSL..........
KISSMYAURA
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not to mention constituting it being against all protocol, shame you did not get his shoulder number, put in a complaint he would have been suspended .......
KISSMYAURA
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all emergency vehicles white lights flash 'Wig Wag' ie left then right, even the 'machine gun' strobes, and up down.
We have not had left and right in unison flashing since since 1985..............
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