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Jinx

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Hi, As the weather is warmer i've decided that its time to give the chassi a
inspection/clean/paint/corrosion protection!

My plan is to clean the chassi by jet wash/hose followed by inspection.

Then give it a wire brushing and rub down followed by some chassi black
paint.

Once done on with the protection (Dinitrol 3125 i think?)

I was just wondering how much i'll need to do inside and out side the
chassi?

Also where can i pick "chassi black" paint? I'm going for this because i
believe hammerite chips very easy!

Also Lro reviewed rust proofers and quoted Morris Anker Wax as a good buy,
does anyone know where i can get this?


TA Mark

Birmingham



 
Hi Mark,

I would personally inject waxoyl into every crevice in the chassis and mix
waxoyl with black stone chip for the underside and spray that on.

A

"Jinx" <mjg2000@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:cbnea7$4tf$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> Hi, As the weather is warmer i've decided that its time to give the chassi
a
> inspection/clean/paint/corrosion protection!
>
> My plan is to clean the chassi by jet wash/hose followed by inspection.
>
> Then give it a wire brushing and rub down followed by some chassi black
> paint.
>
> Once done on with the protection (Dinitrol 3125 i think?)
>
> I was just wondering how much i'll need to do inside and out side the
> chassi?
>
> Also where can i pick "chassi black" paint? I'm going for this because i
> believe hammerite chips very easy!
>
> Also Lro reviewed rust proofers and quoted Morris Anker Wax as a good buy,
> does anyone know where i can get this?
>
>
> TA Mark
>
> Birmingham
>
>
>


 
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:30:48 +0000 (UTC), "Jinx"
<mjg2000@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Also where can i pick "chassi black" paint? I'm going for this because i
>believe hammerite chips very easy!

In my experience hammerite sticks pretty well to a nice rusty chassis.
Does seem to need redoing after a couple of years though. Did mine
about 3 years ago, and some bits are by now fairly rusty where its
chipped off/rusted through.

Frosts (http://www.frost.co.uk/) sell POR-15 which is supposed to be
more chip resistant. I've tried it on the underside of my car, so in a
year or so i can see if its actually any better than hammerite! It
definately stains your hands mroe effectively than hammerite does!

 
"Jinx" <mjg2000@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:cbnea7$4tf$1@hercules.btinternet.com:

> Also where can i pick "chassi black" paint? I'm going for
> this because i believe hammerite chips very easy!

Do it right, do it once.

POR15 at http://www.frost.co.uk, but you might need to take out
a second mortgage.

Derry
 
Derry Argue wrote:
>
> POR15 at http://www.frost.co.uk, but you might need to take out
> a second mortgage.
>

No other source ? Is that why its so %$^$&$** expensive !

Steve
 
Derry Argue wrote:
> "Jinx" <mjg2000@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:cbnea7$4tf$1@hercules.btinternet.com:
>
>
>>Also where can i pick "chassi black" paint? I'm going for
>>this because i believe hammerite chips very easy!
>
>
> Do it right, do it once.
>
> POR15 at http://www.frost.co.uk, but you might need to take out
> a second mortgage.
>
> Derry


According to my browser, and their website, its 1277 quid a pint.
Shurely shume mishtake.
Surely ?????

Steve
 
Steve Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote in
news:40e04ec0$0$4593$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:

> Derry Argue wrote:
>> "Jinx" <mjg2000@btinternet.com> wrote in
>> news:cbnea7$4tf$1@hercules.btinternet.com:
>>
>>
>>>Also where can i pick "chassi black" paint? I'm going for
>>>this because i believe hammerite chips very easy!
>>
>>
>> Do it right, do it once.
>>
>> POR15 at http://www.frost.co.uk, but you might need to
>> take out a second mortgage.
>>
>> Derry
>
>
> According to my browser, and their website, its 1277 quid a
> pint. Shurely shume mishtake.
> Surely ?????
>
> Steve
>

Mine worked out at £20 for a very very tiny pot. But it really
is good stuff and it does go a long way. Spend £5 on a box of
surgical gloves before you start!

I did find a German supplier who might be cheaper. After all, we
are all Europeans these days.

Derry
 
Derry Argue wrote:

> Mine worked out at £20 for a very very tiny pot. But it really
> is good stuff and it does go a long way. Spend £5 on a box of
> surgical gloves before you start!
>
> I did find a German supplier who might be cheaper. After all, we
> are all Europeans these days.

Hi Derry,
I checked the company website at por15.com and their US/Canadian price
is around 20 quid for 750ml - or around 1/5 th of the UK price.

Should we club together and get a few gallons worth shipped in ?

I have a 101 to do.

Steve
 
Steve Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote in
news:40e05bbd$0$4579$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:

> Should we club together and get a few gallons worth shipped
> in ?

There is definite advantage in some of us doing that. A while
back there was mention of some special gearbox oil for 300Tdi's.
I researched that and it is possible to make a huge saving by
buying a gallon rather than a pint.But who needs a gallon?

The German site listed a six pack of POR15 which is a very good
idea as if your tin is not properly sealed, it will turn to one
solid black lump very quickly! Spreading the risk to six tins
makes sense.

I wonder if we shouldn't form a buyers' group? I am all for it.
I am also interested in falconry. I found a source of cheap bulk
purchase transmitter batteries and posted that information on a
newsgroup. Did not take long to find others of a similar mind
and everyone saved money. Let's go for it!

Derry
 
Derry Argue wrote:
>
> I wonder if we shouldn't form a buyers' group? I am all for it. I am
also interested in falconry. I found a source of cheap bulk purchase
transmitter batteries and posted that information on a newsgroup. Did
not take long to find others of a similar mind and everyone saved money.
Let's go for it!
>
> Derry


Wonder how much I need for a 101 - and its huge fuel tank ? Any comments
anyone ?

That makes three folks so far who have expressed an interest.

Steve
 
Steve Taylor wrote:

> Wonder how much I need for a 101 - and its huge fuel tank ? Any comments
> anyone ?

Just remind the bank manager that you're protecting a serious investment and
he'll give you the 2nd mortgage ;)

> That makes three folks so far who have expressed an interest.

Four... I think I should invest in a RR worth of it!

Regards

William MacLeod
 
In message <40e05bbd$0$4579$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Steve Taylor
<steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> writes
>Derry Argue wrote:
>
>> Mine worked out at £20 for a very very tiny pot. But it really is
>>good stuff and it does go a long way. Spend £5 on a box of surgical
>>gloves before you start!
>> I did find a German supplier who might be cheaper. After all, we
>>are all Europeans these days.
>
>Hi Derry,
>I checked the company website at por15.com and their US/Canadian price
>is around 20 quid for 750ml - or around 1/5 th of the UK price.
>
Am I looking at the right stuff - POR15 chassis black 20quid for 475ml
inc VAT from Frost?
It may be more expensive than the US but after carriage, import duty
and VAT won't the US price mount up unless you're looking at *serious*
quantities?

--
AndyG
 
AJG wrote:

> Am I looking at the right stuff - POR15 chassis black 20quid for 475ml
> inc VAT from Frost?
> It may be more expensive than the US but after carriage, import duty
> and VAT won't the US price mount up unless you're looking at *serious*
> quantities?
>

The more I look the less I understand about the exact setup for this
paint on a rough chassis !

From what I can see they recommend a de-greaser, then the "rust paint",
which is NOT UV stable, then the overcoat, to protect the rust paint....

Help !

Steve
 
In article <40e1dd56$0$4578$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Steve Taylor wrote:
>
> The more I look the less I understand about the exact setup for this
> paint on a rough chassis !
>
> From what I can see they recommend a de-greaser, then the "rust paint",
> which is NOT UV stable, then the overcoat, to protect the rust paint....
>

I think that they recommend overcoating it *because* it is not UV stable
and will fade if not protected. The fading doesnt affect its other
properties though AFAIK.

I will be doing the bits of my rear crossmember that are easy to reach
soon and waxoyling the rest. The de-greaser they recommned is their own
and called marine clean, very good it is too if just a bit expensive.

Like I say I haven't used the POR15 yet but everything I can find points
to it being very good stuff indeed.

--
simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.
 
On or around 30 Jun 2004 07:44:37 GMT, Simon Barr <me@privacy.net>
enlightened us thusly:

>In article <40e1dd56$0$4578$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Steve Taylor wrote:
>>
>> The more I look the less I understand about the exact setup for this
>> paint on a rough chassis !
>>
>> From what I can see they recommend a de-greaser, then the "rust paint",
>> which is NOT UV stable, then the overcoat, to protect the rust paint....
>>
>
>I think that they recommend overcoating it *because* it is not UV stable
>and will fade if not protected. The fading doesnt affect its other
>properties though AFAIK.
>
>I will be doing the bits of my rear crossmember that are easy to reach
>soon and waxoyling the rest. The de-greaser they recommned is their own
>and called marine clean, very good it is too if just a bit expensive.
>
>Like I say I haven't used the POR15 yet but everything I can find points
>to it being very good stuff indeed.

Just bought some galvafroid to paint bits on the back of the disco, such as
my newly-made sliding tow hitch. 'ere, how much to they cost, and can I
undercut Dixon-Bate...?


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
 
In article <1v75e054d50r6bddpf394cgr0i4q2f98i0@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> Just bought some galvafroid to paint bits on the back of the disco, such as
> my newly-made sliding tow hitch. 'ere, how much to they cost, and can I
> undercut Dixon-Bate...?
>

They are quite expensive AFAIK. I've got a dixon bate one on the 110 with
some extra bits attached, its got a tow jaw on each side as well as the ball.

Just wish it didn't hang down quite so far, it nearly always ploughs up
some mud on laning trips and has got me stuck once.


--
simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.
 
"Simon Barr" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2kfmffF1oj3bU1@uni-berlin.de...
> They are quite expensive AFAIK. I've got a dixon bate one on the 110 with
> some extra bits attached, its got a tow jaw on each side as well as the
ball.
>
> Just wish it didn't hang down quite so far, it nearly always ploughs up
> some mud on laning trips and has got me stuck once.

That's why I took both my Discos' towbars off. It's only 4 bolts if I want
to stick it back on again ever. And I can use Jate rings without it.

David


 
Steve Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote in
news:40e1dd56$0$4578$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:

> The more I look the less I understand about the exact setup
> for this paint on a rough chassis !
>
> From what I can see they recommend a de-greaser, then the
> "rust paint",
> which is NOT UV stable, then the overcoat, to protect the
> rust paint....
>
> Help !
>
> Steve

Wire brush off loose rust, then paint with POR15 -- unless its
oily/greasey when you'll need a degreaser. Don't worry about UV
protection on the chassis, unless you plan driving your LR
upside down!<G>

Derry
 
AJG <ND@shedcity.demon.co.nospamuk> wrote in
news:trbYTgC2ud4AFwtd@shedcity.demon.co.uk:

> In message <40e05bbd$0$4579$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Steve
> Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> writes
>>Derry Argue wrote:
>>
>>> Mine worked out at £20 for a very very tiny pot. But it
>>> really is
>>>good stuff and it does go a long way. Spend £5 on a box of
>>> surgical gloves before you start!
>>> I did find a German supplier who might be cheaper. After
>>> all, we
>>>are all Europeans these days.
>>
>>Hi Derry,
>>I checked the company website at por15.com and their
>>US/Canadian price is around 20 quid for 750ml - or around
>>1/5 th of the UK price.
>>
> Am I looking at the right stuff - POR15 chassis black
> 20quid for 475ml inc VAT from Frost?
> It may be more expensive than the US but after carriage,
> import duty
> and VAT won't the US price mount up unless you're looking
> at *serious* quantities?
>

I am just in after a 1,000 mile round trip putting a dog on the
plane at Manchester so excuse the short reply!

Maybe someone could research that German site? If they can
supply cheaper, it would cut out duty, VAT is going to be about
the same (?), and carriage probably not much more.

Sorry, I'd do it but I'm knackered.... :(

Who was the poor sod in a grey Series (bonnet up) broken down on
the motorway near Manchester? I nearly stopped but couldn't as
there was a darn great lorry up my exhaust pipe.

Derry
 
William MacLeod <willie@macleod-group.com> wrote in
news:eYiEc.247$t76.219@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net:

> Steve Taylor wrote:
>
>> Wonder how much I need for a 101 - and its huge fuel tank
>> ? Any comments anyone ?
>
> Just remind the bank manager that you're protecting a
> serious investment and he'll give you the 2nd mortgage ;)
>
>> That makes three folks so far who have expressed an
>> interest.
>
> Four... I think I should invest in a RR worth of it!
>
> Regards
>
> William MacLeod
>

I've posted about this on another thread. Totally knackered
after driving 1,000 miles in 24 hours and feeling my age. I
found a German site offering POR15. Maybe someone who can
speekie de language can research it?

Derry
 
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