looking at that the kia has more room in the back :doh:
looks pretty **** but with all the new gizmos and a decent set of proper boots ill bet its pretty damn good off road..............
until they break
ZeDefender
New Member
Any chance it will be aluminium - I fear not...
I deliberately did NOT buy anything that soft and horrible - my squared-off 2011 Defender is a beast of beauty
I deliberately did NOT buy anything that soft and horrible - my squared-off 2011 Defender is a beast of beauty
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Bromsgrove Defender
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Ah've said it afore an I'll say it agen.
The whole point of a Series/Defender is rugged simplicity......
The whole point of a Series/Defender is rugged simplicity......
Landie_Man
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Bromsgrove Defender
Well-Known Member
I can still chuck 1/2 tonne of boken slabs in the back and pressure wash it out.
I can still rip the TD5 engine and electrics out n put 200 or 300 tdi engine in IF and when I ever need to.
Arguably you could do the same wiv the puma although I don't think you could pressure washer out the front
West Slope Rover
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With our luck they'll let this one into the country.
tombardier
Well-Known Member
that looks like a newer discolander
low-profile tyres too.. you'd never see them crawling over rocks..
what I would like to see is something not too dissimilar to the defender, but with the hand-brake somewhere better, a complete lack of mud-traps in the chassis, proper corrosion protection, doors that actually fit, an auto gearbox option, probably an option for more powerful, or more economical engines.
I wonder if there'll be a 2wd version of this defender, like there is on the 'range rover' evoque
low-profile tyres too.. you'd never see them crawling over rocks..
what I would like to see is something not too dissimilar to the defender, but with the hand-brake somewhere better, a complete lack of mud-traps in the chassis, proper corrosion protection, doors that actually fit, an auto gearbox option, probably an option for more powerful, or more economical engines.
I wonder if there'll be a 2wd version of this defender, like there is on the 'range rover' evoque
Twisted Thread Starter
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norfolkmick
Active Member
As already stated, this will be the end of the iconic landrover. its not going to be the same wading or getting it stuck knee deep in the mud.
SORRY TO SAY
RIP DEFENDER AS WE KNOW YOU:violin::violin::Cry::Cry:
SORRY TO SAY
RIP DEFENDER AS WE KNOW YOU:violin::violin::Cry::Cry:
timtheenchanteruk
Well-Known Member
now hang on just a second, these are only pictures of the CONCEPT vehicle that the new model will be based on.
so there is a glimmer of light, how many production vehicles look anything like the concept upon which they were based.
IF landrover did release it like that, they would seriously shoot themselves in the foot, they already have a softroader, the freelander, a footballers version, the rangeroony, the defender is the bread and butter machine, adaptable, easily maintained, just look at how many are still on (or off) the roads.
so there is a glimmer of light, how many production vehicles look anything like the concept upon which they were based.
IF landrover did release it like that, they would seriously shoot themselves in the foot, they already have a softroader, the freelander, a footballers version, the rangeroony, the defender is the bread and butter machine, adaptable, easily maintained, just look at how many are still on (or off) the roads.
West Slope Rover
Well-Known Member
So a guy on the Land Rover Facebook page said this:
It's a start, a concept! To all those who think the Defender can last as it is for much longer, you are delusional. It is too expensive to make, not safe for passengers or others and not suited to todays eco climate. Land Rover need to axe it or replace it with some thing which is a modern interpretation of the model. It needs to appeal to the core segment, have unrivalled ability in the rough, be clean, economical and safe. It needs to borrow parts, design and mechanicals from other models to keep production costs down to make it viable. I personally think that Land Rover should make more of design cues taken from the original car. In particular, roof design, bonnet line and wings, shoulder line, square wheel arches and most of all the 'face' of the old car whislt making it modern. You can spot a Defender a mile away, whether it is in a village in Kenya, Afghanistan or Kent. That should still be the case. I'm not saying that i'm particularly keen on the first pictures but its a start and i'm all in favour of sympathetic replacement rather than axing what has become a motoring icon altogether and abandoning a customer base on which the sucess of the company was founded.
It's a start, a concept! To all those who think the Defender can last as it is for much longer, you are delusional. It is too expensive to make, not safe for passengers or others and not suited to todays eco climate. Land Rover need to axe it or replace it with some thing which is a modern interpretation of the model. It needs to appeal to the core segment, have unrivalled ability in the rough, be clean, economical and safe. It needs to borrow parts, design and mechanicals from other models to keep production costs down to make it viable. I personally think that Land Rover should make more of design cues taken from the original car. In particular, roof design, bonnet line and wings, shoulder line, square wheel arches and most of all the 'face' of the old car whislt making it modern. You can spot a Defender a mile away, whether it is in a village in Kenya, Afghanistan or Kent. That should still be the case. I'm not saying that i'm particularly keen on the first pictures but its a start and i'm all in favour of sympathetic replacement rather than axing what has become a motoring icon altogether and abandoning a customer base on which the sucess of the company was founded.
crumplezone
New Member
How about bollocks to land rover and we carry on making and resurrecting them in various places with the thriving [not brit]parts market and aftermarket mods and upgrades like spaceframe chassis, remanufactured parts alternative interiors and rear tubs newer and lighter technology, advanced engines and electronics even etc.
The companies that supply the land rover factory will surely want to stay in business so let them.
Maybe the defender can continue to be made under a different license of sorts or no license or just make things that look like land rovers and perform like land rovers and keep on kickin ****.
Diesel-electric-hybrid with no transmission and independent suspension?
The companies that supply the land rover factory will surely want to stay in business so let them.
Maybe the defender can continue to be made under a different license of sorts or no license or just make things that look like land rovers and perform like land rovers and keep on kickin ****.
Diesel-electric-hybrid with no transmission and independent suspension?
