'Tis truly amazing mate... a wonder of modern techologicowizzardry and things of - the like - For example - MY OM636 unit - was actually THROTTLED by a butterfly valve actuating a vacuum FP control via the intake pressure - amazing !! - truly amazing what those whiz kids of the 50's got up to.It's all so clever these days. Did you know that they can now make cider that doesn't contain apples. I guess that leaves more room for the alcohol
Eee lad, Old Dougie eh ? - well , unfortunately not so old...I must stop posting at the same time as you.
Nice Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference Joe
I think you need anotherWhat a pair of total idiots you are. I hope nobody is taking notice of your bloody nonsense.
That would explain some of the quite deluded comments from 'anon' Nodge.......I think you need another
Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster
Quite true, it is often the case. True and accurate diagnosis of a problem is the most difficult part. Correct diagnosis allows them to identify the area that needs fixing. Then they need the skill and experience to actually replace the part., It is usually the customer who pays dearly for the lack of skill in the technician. So many are simple part swappers as they have nothing else to resort to. Too many technicians believe that all they need is a scan tool for most tech issues - if it say sensor X fault - they change sensor x - then oops, it doesn't work. Even with live data and graphing on quality diagnostic units the lack of ability to understand what they are seeing is quite glaring.It's all very good knowing how something works or controlled but it's another thing trying to fix it. I have seen so many promising young lads who are wizz kids in the class room but ask them to fix something thats broken, well and thats another story
Absolutely !. the small workshops are closing all the time here - even the medium sized ones. It is ALL down to lack of ability. Many actually say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to work on modern vehicles - that is their reasoning. The truth is it is perfectly possible, it is the ability of the people working there that unfortunately cannot progress. The skill needed to be a spanner man or extremely skilled diagnostic guy on normal mechanical systems to then being aware of and able to use electronic diagnostics (not simply scan code readers ) is a HUGE difference. The ability to understand electronics considerably above a basic level - the ability to understand and visualise how a system works - even in component blocks is a huge hurdle. Also correctly reading and interpreting wiring diagrams is a level many cannot get their head around. By interpreting I do not just mean 'following it and tracing' I mean looking at and understanding the interactivity.Technician's of today are just renamed "Fitter's" of yesterday. Most don't have a clue about the items they are changing, or what the items function is. They just swap this part and that part, in the hope that they'll get lucky. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. Either way, the person paying the bill gets stung, not that the "fitter" cares.
Proper diagnosis requires an understanding of the modern engine and how all its components work together. Then after a few tests on various sensors, the faulty item can be pinpointed, without the need for random part changing.
Diagnostic equipment can help to a degree. However they normally display the symptom of the fault, not the actual fault. This is where "fitters" fall short. Mostly because they don't have a clue what fault creates a particular symptom.
Classic example is the MAF. Now the M47R ECU will control fuel supplied, based on measured air mass. Now if the MAF signal starts to reduce, because of sensor film oxidation. The ECU will reduce fueling accordingly, to limit black smoke production. This will lower the torque the engine produces. Now the casual "fitter" will throw on a new LP fuel pump and filter, because those items can cause a loss of torque. However it's the MAF causing the issue. So a perfectly serviceable fuel pump was changed for no reason, the engine is still low on torque.
This is where an in depth knowledge of the modern engine comes into play.
The joy of modern job titles, call everybody by the same title and you can pay em all less money, no matter what specialty they have.A fitter assembles things a mechanic repairs things. A lot of modern technicians can't do either.
I welcome your humility in admitting you are so far past it that you now admit openly to being devoid of knowledge, as a humble, and fairly low IQ fitter yourself you, can do neither and are also totally deficient in learning potential - mostly due to your attitude - a 'mechanic' can also not 'repair things' without extensive knowledge that you now quite rightly admit eludes you and also is way beyond WAY beyond your comprehension - you see, you can be sensible for a few minutes before the 'can bus' arrives.A fitter assembles things a mechanic repairs things. A lot of modern technicians can't do either.
Hey - mike mate - I always have - for 40 years - called them Spanner W&nkers. ......The joy of modern job titles, call everybody by the same title and you can pay em all less money, no matter what specialty they have.
Me, unofficial title "Sh1t shifter”
Official title "estate officer" I mean, what does that even stand for?? Sounds like im some jumped up official handing out fines.
Although they call the bin men "waste disposal operatives" they really hate that
Mike
Amazon employs 'Geometrical construction technicians' (Seriously )The joy of modern job titles, call everybody by the same title and you can pay em all less money, no matter what specialty they have.
Me, unofficial title "Sh1t shifter”
Official title "estate officer" I mean, what does that even stand for?? Sounds like im some jumped up official handing out fines.
Although they call the bin men "waste disposal operatives" they really hate that
Mike
The joy of modern job titles, call everybody by the same title and you can pay em all less money, no matter what specialty they have.
Me, unofficial title "Sh1t shifter”
Official title "estate officer" I mean, what does that even stand for?? Sounds like im some jumped up official handing out fines.
Although they call the bin men "waste disposal operatives" they really hate that
Mike
I welcome your humility in admitting you are so far past it that you now admit openly to being devoid of knowledge, as a humble, and fairly low IQ fitter yourself you, can do neither and are also totally deficient in learning potential - mostly due to your attitude - a 'mechanic' can also not 'repair things' without extensive knowledge that you now quite rightly admit eludes you and also is way beyond WAY beyond your comprehension - you see, you can be sensible for a few minutes before the 'can bus' arrives.
If that is your admission of submission for the day in your porcine attitude.. well done... a red star on your wall chart.
There is a small brain like object underneath the BS......
Alas, I doubt it.....
I welcome your confession as to lack of knowledge and ability.