LetsHopeItFits
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I figured as much, how much is the inspection? Im guessing I also cant drive it to the test (or back if it fails)
Shippers
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What do you think?...you build a bloody death trap that could cause serious mayhem on the road and they let you drive it to an inspection!...also who would insure you remember you have to tell them its modified...you need to do more research on your own and stop asking questions...
Shippers
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I remember you telling me about that Cobra.
The Merc looks nice!
I have seen kit cars all wired in the one colour!!!!!
When I do one, I buy a second loom from a scrapper that way I can extend wires exactly the same colour and gauge plus I get a spare set of relays and fuses. Costs peanuts.
By the way the Disco behind Cobra was in for handbrake fix took 3 days as was UK plate and somebody had been there before us and bodged it at least 3hrs we both worked on it but Barry a good day on his own...
LetsHopeItFits
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The modification declaration is a box ticking thing, so its just a "chassis modification"
Yes, I have checked insurance. And yes, at 19 my disco is cheaper to insure than a fiesta (bought the policy when I was 18)
Yes, I have checked insurance. And yes, at 19 my disco is cheaper to insure than a fiesta (bought the policy when I was 18)
Shippers
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"just a chassis modification" are you serious and youv'e ticked the box and had a quote?...
discool
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Similar in the UK, people buy an expensive vehicle that they can’t or afford to maintain, then sell on, hence the issues… but it keeps the professional garage owners & mechanics in business. So don’t complain
And just to add: Now in the UK some vehicles over 40 years don't need the annual test (MOT) Great for us owners that have such a vehicle.
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There is no reason at all why you can't be present when they do it. In fact the guy I mentioned was present for the whole 5 hours and the guys talked to him afterwards "We found them very fair and they even made suggestions as to how some items could be changed to comply" quoth he. So while you may not be able to actually breath down their necks when they are working, you will be present on site and able to talk to them afterwards. They told him some funny stories like the vehicle that was brought in and they found 10 faults just while walking around it.
LetsHopeItFits
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Yep, ticked all the boxes for all the mods and it was £600 more. That might sound like alot, but its like a 65% increase. Hardly bankbreaking in the grand scheme of things
A, don't know but it won't take you much Googling to find out.
and yes you can drive it to the test centre, but only back if it isn't too much of a death trap, if it fails on the odd bit of stuff you can drive it back.
Funnily the bloke i mentioned commented exactly on that and said he took no risks and trailered it there.
but a kit car is a bit easier to trailer!
Shippers
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So don’t complain
Wasnt complaining we were fixing it!...box with all the gubbings in was araldited together owner supplied cables from autodoc as he didnt want to pay stealer price down here were wrong everything rusted and stuck due to always leaving in park and never using handbrake...
Shippers
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How can you drive an uninsured unregisterd car to an IVA inspection to get a certificate to register it...
You'd have to ask the guy who wrote the article in Pitstop, the Marlin Owner's magazine.
BUT the OP did say his car is insured.
Or you could ask the IVA inspectors.
In some ways it's like driving a car to an MOT, it doesn't have to be taxed, just insured, as for registration again, I am not sure how that works.
"6.3 What if my vehicle does not have a Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)? If your motor vehicle does not have a manufacturer’s Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) stamped on the chassis, you will have to apply to your DVLA local office for one to be assigned before the IVA inspection is conducted. DVLA local office officials may wish to inspect the vehicle to check its authenticity/originality. VOSA will also check vehicle details against information held on stolen vehicle databases."
(From the VOSA info,) so basically it has a VIN number or it cannot be inspected. So it IS registered before you can take it for IVA testing.
http://www.jbaoc.org.uk/iva_documents/iva_guide.pdf
Shippers
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So let me get this right you told your insurers you were going to chop/fit a new chassis to extend the wheelbase of your Disco chop/extend the bodyshell to fit and weld/fit the whole lot together and you ticked all the boxes online and they said go ahead!!
Shippers
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The point of IVA is to get registration...you can get insurance using vin only but that applys to imports...modified cars needing an IVA test means they are built up and therefore wont have insurance and after test might get a Q plate which again flags up insurance problems...IVA is not like going for an MOT as you should know being a kit car guy and no you wont be present as same as an MOT...
Shippers
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A vin number is NOT a registration number it is an identification of the vehicles details...
Hicap phill
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If I was the OP I would take a landy for an MOT. Once you have experienced this,think of what an SVA/IVA will do to your nerves.
Errors like this for IVA
I can’t fit into the bucket seat(fat tester)
Fog lights tilting slightly upwards
Every thing labeled(even the fire extinguisher system that says do not press unless your on fire)
Errors like this for IVA
I can’t fit into the bucket seat(fat tester)
Fog lights tilting slightly upwards
Every thing labeled(even the fire extinguisher system that says do not press unless your on fire)
Do what I done & went in and seen Laurie ross insurance, got them to insure it on the chassis number.
It might be a bit more difficult these days.
Edit I really should have had read to the end of the thread.
Shippers
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Every time I used to take my Fiesta Hi-top van for inspection here had to cable tie a piece of mdf to grill behind seats as it didn't have a rear view mirror which was a fail...we got a Clio in to scrap so fitted the mirror don't get a fail now but still can't see much cause windows are high up on the doors..
LetsHopeItFits
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Okay lets do some clearing up. If I did it this way, assuming a stock disco would pass without difficulty, then the only things it can fail on are the alterations I have made, so the chassis extension, the brake lines, the prop shaft, the exhaust and the rear tray. Thats it. The chassis, from the front axle, about 80 inches back, is absolutly standard. The body, from the c pillar forward, is also totally unmodified. The remainder of the chassis is from a bone stock, near identical discovery, cut say 20 inches further forwards, and joined to a good standard (however you join bits of chassis when you fix rust, or do an extension in australia etc). The exhaust would also be totally standard, with an extra 20 inches between the resonator and the backbox, so would be identical to the standard, except longer. Prop shaft would have to be custom made by a 3rd party company, as possibly would the tray. Alternatively a bed from a hi cap could be used, cut to size.
So, Im sure Ive missed something here, assuming everything went swimmingly, and the chassis is braced to a stronger-than-stock level, how does it fail?
Also, insurance, it was just a quote, I didnt buy the policy like that because my disco is stock
So, Im sure Ive missed something here, assuming everything went swimmingly, and the chassis is braced to a stronger-than-stock level, how does it fail?
Also, insurance, it was just a quote, I didnt buy the policy like that because my disco is stock
Hicap phill
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Why not make the whee base 127”?
That way you could use ready made prop shafts,exhaust etc off a 130landrover
That way you could use ready made prop shafts,exhaust etc off a 130landrover