Stanleysteamer said:
Had a few thoughts about your garridge overnight.
Firstly, a pitch of 25 degrees is fecking ridiculous, even in the S of France where it is hot and don't rain that much, they allow you 30 degrees. above 600 metres you can have 45 degrees. so where you are 45 degs make perfick sense and 25 degs is totally nonsensical.
The other properties around you have already said are 45 degs and all the pics you have shown us of places you have been working on are the same. I bet your house is the same.
Quite apart from anything else you are seriously compromising storage space in the loft of the garage if it ain't at 45. Not that I suppose they'll give a toss.
As for the width of it, are these feckers so stupid that they don't realise that modern cars are much wider than old ones, due to side impact bars etc? There have been moves afoot to widen parking bays as modern ones can't get their doors open easily, in trad ones. Designed in the days of Austin 7s.
"Car Width Comparison
The width of cars in the UK actually remains fairly consistent, limited by restrictions on car parking spot size and road lane width, coming in between 1615mm to 2107mm."
So if you show this to the bitch it'll show that you couldn't even get the doors open if two cars were parked side by side. 2107 + 2107+ plus 609.6 per side per car. DUUUUUUHHHHH!
What right does she have to dictate to you what sort of car you can buy?

From https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/cheap-car-insurance/average-car-dimensions#:~:text=The average car in the UK is 1820mm in width,is around 1535mm in height.
And finally, if this has been going on for over a year or more then you may have grounds to just ignore them as, unless you were awkward and bloody minded about stuff to the point of ignoring requests from them.
This applies to England but I bet it ain't much different in Scotland.

"What happens if an application is not dealt with on time?
Where a valid application has not been determined within the relevant statutory period (or such other period as has been agreed in writing between the local planning authority and the applicant), the applicant has a right to appeal to the Secretary of State against non-determination.

If the applicant has not exercised this right of appeal, and the application remains undetermined after 26 weeks, then the fee paid by the applicant will be refunded to them (unless a longer period for the decision has been agreed).

Applicants should not attempt to delay a decision on their application simply to obtain a fee refund. A local planning authority will be justified in refusing permission where an applicant causes deliberate delay and has been unwilling to agree an extension of time; and such behaviour will be taken into account in determining any claim for costs by the local planning authority if the applicant then goes to appeal.

Paragraph: 004 Reference ID: 21b-004-20140306

Revision date: 06 03 2014"

I don't know if there are planning lawyers north of the border but there are down here.
My ex S-i-L had to go nearly to the Secretary of State before they finally gave up after a full hearing at the council.
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My head hurts at the thought o_O:D Thanks matey :):);)
I was out measuring today its getting on my t!ts :mad: Yes my house has a 45 degree pitch & so has
95% of the houses on the peninsula so I dont understand why they want to reduce it :confused:
I did try to take a pic of the floor plan but its not that clear.
The measurements are from the front with the doors....
800mm with buttress, garage door 2200mm, 600mm buttress, garage door 2200mm, 800mm with buttress. Made from concrete not a timber construction.

She wants it 5m wide how the fk do I get round this apart from fitting a massive double garage door
in timber, ive seen grp door wood effect costing nearly 5k ffs :eek:
This is the style of doors she wants...
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kevstar said:
My head hurts at the thought o_O:D Thanks matey :):);)
I was out measuring today its getting on my t!ts :mad: Yes my house has a 45 degree pitch & so has
95% of the houses on the peninsula so I dont understand why they want to reduce it :confused:
I did try to take a pic of the floor plan but its not that clear.
The measurements are from the front with the doors....
800mm with buttress, garage door 2200mm, 600mm buttress, garage door 2200mm, 800mm with buttress. Made from concrete not a timber construction.

She wants it 5m wide how the fk do I get round this apart from fitting a massive double garage door
in timber, ive seen grp door wood effect costing nearly 5k ffs :eek:
This is the style of doors she wants...
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I do feel your pain mate.
I cannot understand all this dictatorial attitude re the doors etc. Do you live in a conservation area or anything?
So you want it 6600mm and she wants it 5000? Your dimensions are much more in line with the width of modern cars. Which is the argument I would use.
If you stuck to your door dimensions which are very fair for getting a car through them, in fact very tight for a wider modern car, then if the frontage of the garage is 5m you have nearly feck all left for buttresses etc.
She cannot use her totally arbitrary 5m to give you a double garage that you cannot actually drive a car into.
The only other way would be to have twin doors which meet in the middle and slide around and back sideways, in runners top and bottom. That REALLY is old skool and was abandoned ages ago cos they are rubbish! Or else you are into up and over doors, which ain't old skool at all.
Lots of peeps round our way have done this--->. They have taken out the twin up and over doors with a central pillar and replaced them with one big up and over, often remotely operated. I do not have the dimensions but I could measure them up for you if you were interested. But ours are all in brick, the roofs are slightly pitched but back to front not side to side. So there are trusses and quite a bit of storage in them. And hanging from them in my case!!!
 
Just idly watching Vintage Voltage on Quest.
They've just done a DeLorean.
They thort it was cool to have both gullwing doors open remotely.
OK, but both together? Every time? Not individually??????
FFS! So you remotely open the doors, then run around the passenger side and close that door before getting in?
EEEEjits!:(:(:(
 
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Stanleysteamer said:
I do feel your pain mate.
I cannot understand all this dictatorial attitude re the doors etc. Do you live in a conservation area or anything?
So you want it 6600mm and she wants it 5000? Your dimensions are much more in line with the width of modern cars. Which is the argument I would use.
If you stuck to your door dimensions which are very fair for getting a car through them, in fact very tight for a wider modern car, then if the frontage of the garage is 5m you have nearly feck all left for buttresses etc.
She cannot use her totally arbitrary 5m to give you a double garage that you cannot actually drive a car into.
The only other way would be to have twin doors which meet in the middle and slide around and back sideways, in runners top and bottom. That REALLY is old skool and was abandoned ages ago cos they are rubbish! Or else you are into up and over doors, which ain't old skool at all.
Lots of peeps round our way have done this--->. They have taken out the twin up and over doors with a central pillar and replaced them with one big up and over, often remotely operated. I do not have the dimensions but I could measure them up for you if you were interested. But ours are all in brick, the roofs are slightly pitched but back to front not side to side. So there are trusses and quite a bit of storage in them. And hanging from them in my case!!!
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I have had a remote up & over twin sized garage door on a previous property, and yes its a conservation
area but all I wanted was a garage than looked the same as the surrounding property's.
There is a house up the road which was built & looks right out place so how they got planning for that
I'll never know. :confused:
 
Stanleysteamer said:
I do feel your pain mate.
I cannot understand all this dictatorial attitude re the doors etc. Do you live in a conservation area or anything?
So you want it 6600mm and she wants it 5000? Your dimensions are much more in line with the width of modern cars. Which is the argument I would use.
If you stuck to your door dimensions which are very fair for getting a car through them, in fact very tight for a wider modern car, then if the frontage of the garage is 5m you have nearly feck all left for buttresses etc.
She cannot use her totally arbitrary 5m to give you a double garage that you cannot actually drive a car into.
The only other way would be to have twin doors which meet in the middle and slide around and back sideways, in runners top and bottom. That REALLY is old skool and was abandoned ages ago cos they are rubbish! Or else you are into up and over doors, which ain't old skool at all.
Lots of peeps round our way have done this--->. They have taken out the twin up and over doors with a central pillar and replaced them with one big up and over, often remotely operated. I do not have the dimensions but I could measure them up for you if you were interested. But ours are all in brick, the roofs are slightly pitched but back to front not side to side. So there are trusses and quite a bit of storage in them. And hanging from them in my case!!!
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25k ;)
 
kevstar said:
I have had a remote up & over twin sized garage door on a previous property, and yes its a conservation
area but all I wanted was a garage than looked the same as the surrounding property's.
There is a house up the road which was built & looks right out place so how they got planning for that
I'll never know. :confused:
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I would be tempted to ask why you are being singled out if there is direct evidence that this draconian policy has not been universally applied?
If your neighbour has what you want then surely you are just in keeping with the character of the local street-scene?
I hate petty-officialdom. :(
 
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