Small update, as mentioned yep correct the snap on machine was spewing out bull poop figures.
Fired up ye olde testbook earlier correct discs and cables and wouldn't connect so dunno on that one.
Got the Bosch diag out and finally got some sensible numbers! Coolant temp is all good, fuel temp looks normal, start of injection timing is within parameters, couldn't find air temp, throttle position all good, map sensor is reading below atmospheric 850 mbar engine off bit strange but does move about
Few fault codes logged but without description any help much appreciated dtc list?
Currently got a abs/traction fault o/s/f sensor could this somehow cause slowness?
Cheers for the help!
 

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Not familiar with the Bosch diag and those codes are hardly descriptive.

It uses the average of the 4 ABS sensors for speed so I don't think one failing will make much difference. Try checking the sensor is pushed in all the way and the sensor wiring is all good.

Glow plugs have a big fuse inside the box with the engine ECU but if the glow plugs weren't working I doubt you would have started it. I guess it might have a hot-start fix kit fitted and it is picking that up?

If MAP value goes up when you press the throttle then probably working OK.

You'll need the crank start of injection and the start of injection from #4 injector for timing modulation. Ideally that would be about 50% but again. I don't think it will slow the car down when cold.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Not familiar with the Bosch diag and those codes are hardly descriptive.

It uses the average of the 4 ABS sensors for speed so I don't think one failing will make much difference. Try checking the sensor is pushed in all the way and the sensor wiring is all good.

Glow plugs have a big fuse inside the box with the engine ECU but if the glow plugs weren't working I doubt you would have started it. I guess it might have a hot-start fix kit fitted and it is picking that up?

If MAP value goes up when you press the throttle then probably working OK.

You'll need the crank start of injection and the start of injection from #4 injector for timing modulation. Ideally that would be about 50% but again. I don't think it will slow the car down when cold.
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Got a new sensor to go in, when I get around to it, don't want to spend too much until I know this engine issue isn't terminal!
Is there anyone in the North Wales /North West area with nanocom with edc plug in?
Was looking at manual pumps yesterday hmm tempting!
 
KeepBuyingCheapOldCrap said:
Got a new sensor to go in, when I get around to it, don't want to spend too much until I know this engine issue isn't terminal!
Is there anyone in the North Wales /North West area with nanocom with edc plug in?
Was looking at manual pumps yesterday hmm tempting!
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I doubt the pump is your issue.

Classic Rides North Wales might be able to help.
 
Yeah in the Bmw world you can swap out your 525tds electric control pump for a earlier e28 524 td pump there rare as rocking horse poop to find euro only spec cars. Add a petrol engine throttle cable and pedal off you go. Put bigger heads in the pump and a turbo from a lorry and some crazy Europeans are pushing 400 bhp from m51's!
Don't see why we couldn't do it to a range rover ‍
 
RangeRoller dt said:
You can swap out the internals of the FIP but what works where I don’t know. Won’t be trying that myself :D
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Yeah need specialist equipment to play with the pumps properly.
Been out in the truck today for a hour or so drove really nice up to temp and it was pulling well.
Parked up for twenty minutes, whent back out to reverse onto the drive and it wouldn't move flat out eventually slowly crawled away. Hmm gearbox issue more than engine?
 
KeepBuyingCheapOldCrap said:
Yeah in the Bmw world you can swap out your 525tds electric control pump for a earlier e28 524 td pump there rare as rocking horse poop to find euro only spec cars. Add a petrol engine throttle cable and pedal off you go. Put bigger heads in the pump and a turbo from a lorry and some crazy Europeans are pushing 400 bhp from m51's!
Don't see why we couldn't do it to a range rover ‍
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Someone has. Cannot remember his name but it'll be on here somewhere. Not the conversion but the discussion.
 
Update
Whilst cocking about doing some mot repairs to the p38 the other day, I decided to have a poke into this running issue finally. I Suspected the injection pump had been messed about with before so had a good look at it, found the bolts securing the pump top quite rounded off! It has been off at some point maybe for a leaky seal etc and not put back on in the right place effecting injection quantity mg/stroke.
I couldn't slacken the bolts due to the last numpty so Hammer time... With Engine running knocked the pump top towards the front and it nearly stalled oops knocked it back towards the bell housing until the idle was rock steady at 800rpm and job jobbed goes like stink now presume its chipped. Will try and do it properly some time watching injection quantity on live data etc but 5 mins with a hammer and it's much improved.
*Disclaimer don't try this yourself unless you're a fully qualified hill billy there is a chance of total run away with big smokey dead engine consequences*
 
KeepBuyingCheapOldCrap said:
Update
Whilst cocking about doing some mot repairs to the p38 the other day, I decided to have a poke into this running issue finally. I Suspected the injection pump had been messed about with before so had a good look at it, found the bolts securing the pump top quite rounded off! It has been off at some point maybe for a leaky seal etc and not put back on in the right place effecting injection quantity mg/stroke.
I couldn't slacken the bolts due to the last numpty so Hammer time... With Engine running knocked the pump top towards the front and it nearly stalled oops knocked it back towards the bell housing until the idle was rock steady at 800rpm and job jobbed goes like stink now presume its chipped. Will try and do it properly some time watching injection quantity on live data etc but 5 mins with a hammer and it's much improved.
*Disclaimer don't try this yourself unless you're a fully qualified hill billy there is a chance of total run away with big smokey dead engine consequences*
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Should be 750 rpm at (warm) idle. Someone might have tweaked it to stop it stalling and it might be running a little rich now.
 
Datatek said:
750 plus or minus 50rpm in my manual so 800 is within spec.
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Yes although it seems a bit loose to me. It is electronic so except when a load cuts in or out it should be possible to get it pretty darn close. Mine sits on 750rpm almost exactly.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Yes although it seems a bit loose to me. It is electronic so except when a load cuts in or out it should be possible to get it pretty darn close. Mine sits on 750rpm almost exactly.
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I'm sure if BMW wanted it exact, they would have said so, the tacho is not 100% accurate either.
 
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