On a serious note is there anyone on here that is ofay with these cars and an auto electrician to basically got through it and fix the bugger as after ive done the above and Doug i think might be giving it one last shot if all else fails i need help by an bloke **** hot withwiring etc to test it all out...
 
neo2 said:
On a serious note is there anyone on here that is ofay with these cars and an auto electrician to basically got through it and fix the bugger as after ive done the above and Doug i think might be giving it one last shot if all else fails i need help by an bloke **** hot withwiring etc to test it all out...
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Do you know any one who has a working coil pack you can borrow,as even one working coil pack will make it cough and if it doesn't cough you can definitely put that one to bed.I know it might be a shot in the dark but worth a try and little or no cost.
 
neo2 said:
Ive also ordered a brand new dealer crank sensor too at £56 ...
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Hi Rob,

Sorry - I was looking at a Camshaft sensor for £116, which is what i've had problems on other motors with in the past. Looking back I can see Saint has suggested Crank not Cam, so good call!!

Grrrrrr said:
Given a gearbox fault is reported can someone with a similar motor post the values for their gearbox? Are any different?

J
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I haven't got my laptop with me at work, but I'll try to post up the same screenshots as you've got from mine this evening as a comparison - I've got a faultmate and I think Doug is using the same vehicle explorer software (from the screen shots) so it should be a match :).

Cheers

Marc
 
I think that engine temperature reading may be a clue as to the problem, look at what is obviously wrong rather than chase rainbows.

Disconnect the engine/ECU temperature sensor and see if the temperature reading changes, then ground it and see if it changes.
 
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I have had coilpack problems in the past, not on the RR though, but had to replace them all on my Golf GTI and my S4 (that was a painful 8 coilpacks). So it could be this, but who knows?

If its possible to "borrow" a known working one to test, then its worth a try.

But yeah, as Datatek suggests, better to look at what is obviously wrong and work from there.
 
It all seems to be getting Blurry here !!

We have power to the coils !! Apparently no one seems to know if the coils are any good either diag should read them to check if it can't then the coils need to be taken to an electrician that knows how to test them . If the coils are ok then the next step it to see what fires them again cps if diagnostics can't tell it needs to go to an Electrician for testing cam sensor and so on and last the control box , I would of hoped every fuse in the fuse box and relay have been tested Independently by Process of elimination the Root of the Fault will be found I'm no Electrician But isn't this plain obvious....,
 
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Hiya,

Sorry - I can't work out how to get the screen prints uploaded in a readable format, but I've checked my settings as a comparison. Bear in mind I'd just driven home from work (50 miles) and she was still warm.

My temp is reading around 167, so I would imagine for one that isn't warm (sorry Rob!) the reading of 267 (or thereabouts) does seem a bit high.

Datatek might be onto something there, most engines I know when they overheat tend to stop, but not sure if it would be the sensor and a high limit, or just because the engine can't keep going full stop!

Hope this helps and points in the right direction.

Cheers

Marc

(PS, out tonight, but will post htm/screen prints later if required and someone can explain how to!!!!)
 
marcinbrighton said:
Hiya,

Sorry - I can't work out how to get the screen prints uploaded in a readable format, but I've checked my settings as a comparison. Bear in mind I'd just driven home from work (50 miles) and she was still warm.

My temp is reading around 167, so I would imagine for one that isn't warm (sorry Rob!) the reading of 267 (or thereabouts) does seem a bit high.

Datatek might be onto something there, most engines I know when they overheat tend to stop, but not sure if it would be the sensor and a high limit, or just because the engine can't keep going full stop!

Hope this helps and points in the right direction.

Cheers

Marc

(PS, out tonight, but will post htm/screen prints later if required and someone can explain how to!!!!)
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Unless it's a fahrenheight reading, 167 is also high:confused: would not expect to see much over 100 Celsius.
 
marcinbrighton said:
Hiya,

Sorry - I can't work out how to get the screen prints uploaded in a readable format, but I've checked my settings as a comparison. Bear in mind I'd just driven home from work (50 miles) and she was still warm.

My temp is reading around 167, so I would imagine for one that isn't warm (sorry Rob!) the reading of 267 (or thereabouts) does seem a bit high.

Datatek might be onto something there, most engines I know when they overheat tend to stop, but not sure if it would be the sensor and a high limit, or just because the engine can't keep going full stop!

Hope this helps and points in the right direction.

Cheers

Marc

(PS, out tonight, but will post htm/screen prints later if required and someone can explain how to!!!!)
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Press PrtSc (Print Screen) button on keyboard, then open up something like paint and then ctrl+V to paste the image into it and save it as an image file...then upload on here using the Manage Attachment button on the thread reply
 
Saint.V8 said:
Press PrtSc (Print Screen) button on keyboard, then open up something like paint and then ctrl+V to paste the image into it and save it as an image file...then upload on here using the Manage Attachment button on the thread reply
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Don't work on my Dell running XP:mad:
 
Sometimes it is ALT, sometimes CTRL and sometime FN (latter usually colours blue or similar.)

J
 
Marcinbrighton= cheers mate any comparissons is of use for doug i think...

Datatek = can a coolant temp sender stop and engine sparking like ive never heard of that but that said these bloody things have a life of thier own as well...

Defender300tdi = Your correct about the coil packs ive not tested them nor replaced them, ive ordered a crank senser though, as for the fuse and relays ( ive replaced the whole fuse box and all the fuses and relays as one unit, from sassaseks car and it was still the same as a lend) he refitted it to his and his ran fine so basically all the relays and fuses are working ok in the under bonnet fusebox at least...
 
neo2 said:
Marcinbrighton= cheers mate any comparissons is of use for doug i think...

Datatek = can a coolant temp sender stop and engine sparking like ive never heard of that but that said these bloody things have a life of thier own as well...

Defender300tdi = Your correct about the coil packs ive not tested them nor replaced them, ive ordered a crank senser though, as for the fuse and relays ( ive replaced the whole fuse box and all the fuses and relays as one unit, from sassaseks car and it was still the same as a lend) he refitted it to his and his ran fine so basically all the relays and fuses are working ok in the under bonnet fusebox at least...
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Ok but no more spending you need these things tested to rule things out .
 
Hi All,

Here you go, my screen shots attached. I was trying earlier to embed in the post to save anyone time, but couldn't do it!!

Saved as attachments now :)

Cheers
Marc
 

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spot on thanks very much i dont know what they mean but i hope someone pops along that does lol,,,,
 
Datatek said:
Unless it's a fahrenheight reading, 167 is also high:confused: would not expect to see much over 100 Celsius.
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I thought that, even under pressure I wouldn't have thought it should be that high (maybe around 105-110 deg c). That said, my temp gauge always sits bang on in the middle with no issues (I didn't really just say that did I???!!! sshh, she didn't hear :D) .

167 in fahrenheit converts to 75 celsius, but conversely that seems quite low .

I kinda assumed that as it was an engine temp, it didn't really relate to the coolant temp (which both observations above would) and was just from yet another sensor!!

That said, as a pure comparison figure against Robs, it would certainly suggest something a bit off with his.

Doug: if you need any other screen prints for comparison, let me know.

HTH

Marc

PS ctrl+print screen gives a full screen dump, alt+prt screen give a window dump, it was the embedding I was struggling with :) all good now.
 
neo2 said:
Marcinbrighton= cheers mate any comparissons is of use for doug i think...

Datatek = can a coolant temp sender stop and engine sparking like ive never heard of that but that said these bloody things have a life of thier own as well...

Defender300tdi = Your correct about the coil packs ive not tested them nor replaced them, ive ordered a crank senser though, as for the fuse and relays ( ive replaced the whole fuse box and all the fuses and relays as one unit, from sassaseks car and it was still the same as a lend) he refitted it to his and his ran fine so basically all the relays and fuses are working ok in the under bonnet fusebox at least...
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Over temperature will put the engine into limp mode, perhaps extreme over temperature will shut it down, I do not know but it is certainly possible.
Need to check what is served by that wire you spared as well as testing the engine temperature sensor.
 
marcinbrighton said:
Hi All,

Here you go, my screen shots attached. I was trying earlier to embed in the post to save anyone time, but couldn't do it!!

Saved as attachments now :)

Cheers
Marc
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Are those shots from Faultmate? If so I will hook mine up and look to compare.
 
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