Well I got my friend to take some more pictures today for the insurance so you can see the extent of the damage. With the bonnet closed it does not look as bad as it could do. And I already have a replacement bulkhead and rear door that were awaiting being fitted.

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Have to say there is a lot on it that DIDN'T get burnt that you might have expected to. such as tyres and even the snorkel.
 
Also unrelated to anything yet and definitely jumping the gun, but can you easily alter the mileage on the old speedos? I have 365k hard earned miles and no second hand speedo comes close to that. I want my miles back! Is there a simply way to do it or am I sitting with a drill at 120mph for for a couple of months to get them back?
Is it an electronic one?
cos if not, just take it out and fiddle with it until it shows what you want!
I think the electric ones store it in the ECU in which case, if that got burnt you may well just have to try and get the enw one rejigged.:(
 
^^This...

although this was the staple of unscrpulous car sales a while ago;)

Rich.
As MOTs are now computerised, it is a lot less of a popular thing to do, and setting it back to what it was before the fire cannot be seen as misrepresentation.
 
Have to say there is a lot on it that DIDN'T get burnt that you might have expected to. such as tyres and even the snorkel.
All of the snorkel is metal though, i got all that galvanised a few years ago. in fairness the the fire brigade (and the neighbor who reported it to them) everything was very quick so it probably had less than 5min burn time. another 5 and there would not have been a lot left at all.

On first glance, "all" it needs is:
wings, bonnet bulkhead for bodywork
engine and ancillaries,
all wiring looms
and all of the dash fixtures
 
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Is it an electronic one?
cos if not, just take it out and fiddle with it until it shows what you want!
I think the electric ones store it in the ECU in which case, if that got burnt you may well just have to try and get the enw one rejigged.:(
I don't do electric, it is an old tdi so everything is mechanical

^^This...

although this was the staple of unscrpulous car sales a while ago;).

As MOTs are now computerised, it is a lot less of a popular thing to do, and setting it back to what it was before the fire cannot be seen as misrepresentation.

I am trying to do the opposite of all of the unscrupulous second hand car dealers, I want as high a mileage as possible. All the speedos I can see for sale clearly belongs to people who looked at rather than drove their land rover. Bit if there is no quick way to do it a mains powered drill with a cable tie on the trigger should work, but even set at 120mph (don't want to go over the speedo speed limit as don't want to damage the internals) will take a month to get 100k additional miles. and most of the ones I can see for sale are in the 150k region.
 
All of the snorkel is metal though, i got all that galvanised a few years ago. in fairness the the fire brigade (and the neighbor who reported it to them) everything was very quick so it probably had less than 5min burn time. another 5 and there would not have been a lot left at all.

On first glance, "all" it needs is:
wings, bonnet bulkhead for bodywork
engine and ancillaries,
all wiring looms
and all of the dash fixtures
"engine" are you sure? They take a lot of heat in normal running. It might be fine once cleaned up and sorted out.
But yes the pipework and wires etc going to it will be well fecked!
 
I don't do electric, it is an old tdi so everything is mechanical





I am trying to do the opposite of all of the unscrupulous second hand car dealers, I want as high a mileage as possible. All the speedos I can see for sale clearly belongs to people who looked at rather than drove their land rover. Bit if there is no quick way to do it a mains powered drill with a cable tie on the trigger should work, but even set at 120mph (don't want to go over the speedo speed limit as don't want to damage the internals) will take a month to get 100k additional miles. and most of the ones I can see for sale are in the 150k region.
Just take it apart and put it together again where you want it to be. It is just a question of turning the dials.
I only did it once, and am a tiny bit ashamed of it, but it is easy to do. ;)
 
"engine" are you sure? They take a lot of heat in normal running. It might be fine once cleaned up and sorted out.
But yes the pipework and wires etc going to it will be well fecked!
It started on the injector pump side, so I am expecting that the injector pump will be toasted. I am planning on dropping another engine into it for speed of rebuild, and will then have a look at rebuilding this one in slow time so it is not dependent on getting that .
 
Sorry to see the damage. Personally I wouldn’t have involved the insurance company, by the time they write it off, pay you out and you buy it back (assuming you can) and then taking into account increased premiums and the reduced value of the vehicle, I reckon you’ll have been better off just not claiming and footing the repair costs yourself.
 
Sorry to see the damage. Personally I wouldn’t have involved the insurance company, by the time they write it off, pay you out and you buy it back (assuming you can) and then taking into account increased premiums and the reduced value of the vehicle, I reckon you’ll have been better off just not claiming and footing the repair costs yourself.
I did consider that, but it depends on what they charge to buy it back. Last time I had this (a jag that was rear ended) they sold it back to me at scrap value, although I am not expecting that here. The reduction in cost does nto bother me. I have no intention of selling it (had it since I was 18, first car i ever bought, etc) so that doesn't bother me. The increased insurance premiums will be annoying though.
 
I did consider that, but it depends on what they charge to buy it back. Last time I had this (a jag that was rear ended) they sold it back to me at scrap value, although I am not expecting that here. The reduction in cost does nto bother me. I have no intention of selling it (had it since I was 18, first car i ever bought, etc) so that doesn't bother me. The increased insurance premiums will be annoying though.
Not too sure but think if it is written off it will have to be inspected before going back on the road to check it is not a ringer, do they check engine numbers, if so be very sure of the engine you install is straight and number matches car it comes from, could be a big pain if not but I would change the engine as a complete engine,by the time you have bought all the bits it will be less than repairing yours and you have done a lot of miles on that engine good luck
 
any idea as to why it caught & / or where it started?

Rich.
It started under the drivers wing, so think it is an electrical short.

Not too sure but think if it is written off it will have to be inspected before going back on the road to check it is not a ringer,

I think it depends on the category the jag just needed a new mot. I am hoping the galv chassis does not cause problems with that as obviously does not have a chassis number stamped on it but I do have the invoice for it somehwer ein my files of land rover receipts. I am just hoping the original vin plate is still legible on the brake pedal and has not melted!
 
Also unrelated to anything yet and definitely jumping the gun, but can you easily alter the mileage on the old speedos? I have 365k hard earned miles and no second hand speedo comes close to that. I want my miles back! Is there a simply way to do it or am I sitting with a drill at 120mph for for a couple of months to get them back?


Not much winding to be done on this one ;)

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I did consider that, but it depends on what they charge to buy it back. Last time I had this (a jag that was rear ended) they sold it back to me at scrap value, although I am not expecting that here. The reduction in cost does nto bother me. I have no intention of selling it (had it since I was 18, first car i ever bought, etc) so that doesn't bother me. The increased insurance premiums will be annoying though.
Scrap value is normal, so I would expect that is what they will want you to pay. If not I'd sure as heck want to know why!
 
I think that the concentration of damage around the driver's side wing will be down to the brake fluid reservoir. Brake fluid is mega-inflammable.
I would try and start the engine before you start pulling it out, you may be pleasantly surprised.
I will have a look at the engine before pulling it out, the fan belt is still intact so I am happy the cambelt is likely to be ok short term to test is starting. I will pull the rocker cover and remover the melted remains of the oil cap, but a quick look at the injector pump I am not sure if that will have survived, I don't know what rubber seals etc are inside of the injector pump but I can certainly see some melt residue around the throttle spindle.
 

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