wide jate rings

MBrown · Oct 21, 2011

Hey all,

I recently put a steering guard on (one of the LR tube types) and now am on the look out for some way of putting a recovery point on the front. The jate rings I have seen that are 96mm are about £50 each! Anyone know a cheap place to get them or any other good ideas?

Also I have done a search on google and landyzone and all posts I find link to sites that charge as above.

Many thanks

lynall · Oct 22, 2011

Sell the tube type and get a guard with built in recovery eyes, going to work out cheaper than 100 quid for two eyes, especially if you get a second hand one.

Lynall

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

Thats what I thought too, I just like my Landy looking quite basic and original, and I'm always having to work on it so is it a pain having a full guard there, does it restrict access much?

DEFENDER90-DAZ · Oct 22, 2011

Have you checked ebay for jate rings?
Theres a few on there of different sizes

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

I've messaged all of them asking the width, I will wait and see... the tube steering guard - i think it looks awesome

DEFENDER90-DAZ · Oct 22, 2011

You got a pic of it as i haven't seen 1 before???

goonarmy · Oct 22, 2011

whos selling jate rings for 50 nicker?

lanny man 90 · Oct 22, 2011

£50 is way over the odds i got mine 2 for £20-25

defender11069 · Oct 22, 2011

i changed my lr guard 4 one from paddocks £69 changed steering damper with it on no probs the landrover 1 started to rot any way

Litch · Oct 22, 2011

If you want to keep the tubular steering guard then why not fit D-rings to the top of the bumper?

LR used them on Series vehicles and they are still available for the 90/110. All you need are longer fixing bolts then to drill a couple of holes in the top of the bumper for each one, expect to pay about £10 each and another £1 for new bolts.
They have always been my prefered recovery point as they are up and out of the way (Jate rings are down in the clag). First fitted a set to my S111 back in the 1980's (they were standard spec on MOD vehicles) and after playing with pin type recovery points in the early 90's I then returned to D-rings as they work so well. Used as a pair with a bridle they spread the load across both chassis legs and as each one is bolted to the chassis with 2-bolts (the front ones don't count) that is four fixings.
As with any recovery point they are only as good as the chassis they are bolted to.

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

Thanks for the replies, attached is a pic of the front of my defender, I like keeping it looking as original as possible.

Here they sell the jate rings at 96mm, costing £49. This is the cheapest I found! i know the 86mm ones are much cheaper, I had a pair for £20 but you just can't fit them over the chassis rails and the guard

I just assumed the bigger ones would be roughly the same price, not 5 times the price!

I've had to be recovered by a recovery truck twice since I've had it, once due to the spring mount snapping off the chassis (now have galv chassis) and another break down.

Are those tow points (the ring on top of the bumper) suitable for towing the landy via AA van/recovery truck etc?

Pikey · Oct 22, 2011

Jate rings are forged and only come in ONE size. If they're not forged and not the std size they're not Jate rings

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

redhand said:
Jate rings are forged and only come in ONE size. If they're not forged and not the std size they're not Jate rings

the 96mm jate ring is forged and can be bought direct from landrover as a genuine part. rated and everything. part number ZXC9435

Litch · Oct 22, 2011

"Are those tow points (the ring on top of the bumper) suitable for towing the landy via AA van/recovery truck etc?"

They are suitable for normal towing, off-road recovery, winching etc.
As I said, they were fitted to the MOD Series fleet and still fitted to some 90/110's today as they have certain advantages over Jate rings.

Pikey · Oct 22, 2011

MBrown said:
the 96mm jate ring is forged and can be bought direct from landrover as a genuine part. rated and everything. part number ZXC9435

They're not JATE rings though. JATE stands for Joint Air Transportation Executive. They devised the specs for a device that would be the only authorised equipment for the air transportation of military landrovers. if they haven't authorised it it's not a JATE ring. Regardless of what LR or anyone else decides to call them.

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

Perfect thank you!

I will have a think :/ if I do find any cheaper 96mm rated jate rings I will post back on here

Pikey · Oct 22, 2011

Having just googled the part number I found this Dingocroft Ropes and shackles As can be clearly seen the "wider" rings are simply jate rings that have had the inner faces machined off thus making the throat wider and obviously weakening the original design.

OH:

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

how do we know if they aren't authorised?

MBrown · Oct 22, 2011

I was told the reason for the additional cost is not just that the inner sides are machined off, but that they are also thicker to allow the thinned part just to be as strong as the standard jate ring size, does that make sense?

Pikey · Oct 22, 2011

MBrown said:
I was told the reason for the additional cost is not just that the inner sides are machined off, but that they are also thicker to allow the thinned part just to be as strong as the standard jate ring size, does that make sense?

It does if it's true but looking at the ones on the dingo croft website they don't look thicker. Would be interesting to get a micrometre onto them.

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