You can here them weeping from here!
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well 17/21 mpg isn't bad for 285 HP. US mpg is less than UK because your gallon is larger
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Plus, gas is under $2.00 a gallon here right now.well 17/21 mpg isn't bad for 285 HP. US mpg is less than UK because your gallon is larger
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Yep. about $1.60 a gallon here at shell/BP and $1.33 in Detroit. A quid or less per gallonPlus, gas is under $2.00 a gallon here right now.
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I like any Landrover except the evoke I would love an old series or early defender but my health is not up to much these days but I am sure the son in law would take over after he was treated to a off road day in a disco he keeps on about buying one but sadly with my money and Landrover are bringing out a new defender but what it looks like nobody knows and our fuel is around a £1 a ltr and there is 4 and a half in one of our gallons here in the uk
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In reality LR had and could of made all the defenders to meet all safety requirements for the rest of the world. They chose not to. I believe they could not of been able to keep up with demand. Even now it is a 4-6 month wait to get a disco or RR over Here in the US.
well 17/21 mpg isn't bad for 285 HP. US mpg is less than UK because your gallon is larger
What size engine is a 285 Hp Jeep?
You have remember that here in the UK, petrol is the equivalent of over $5.60 per US Gallon. So miles per gallon is important. This why most 4X4 vehicles sold here are diesel.
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Diesel seems to be better for delivering low down grunt and torque ...
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The son and I both wish that our Rovers were diesel powered.
I agree that LR could probably have made the Defender meet some new requirements but not all. It's getting difficult to pass the new, more stringent emissions with the tightening allowable limits being imposed by Europe. Then there's the safety aspects to consider these days too. Basically European legislation has made production of the traditional Defender all but impossible.
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Power characterisitcs of a diesel is bettwr for off-road to my mind, you dont see many petrol tractors, and havent for fifty years!
Surely it must be possible to fit a small Cummins unit, that side of the pond?
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Our Cherokee has the 3.0V6 diesel. 215ish horse power and 415ftlb of torque. Puts a huge smile on my face. Mike
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I agree that LR could probably have made the Defender meet some new requirements but not all. It's getting difficult to pass the new, more stringent emissions with the tightening allowable limits being imposed by Europe. Then there's the safety aspects to consider these days too. Basically European legislation has made production of the traditional Defender all but impossible.
If it's purely legislation wouldn't that put all 4x4s out of production?
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The legislation is just a glitch, What really killed it was the economics of the production methods at the comparatively low volume of sales, IMO. Shame Hippo aint here, he is informative on the subject.
That was the official line from JLR. That's all we can go on, regardless of the actual reason.
I suspect that may be something to do with it. But emissions is the official line I heard.
Where is Hippo by the way. Not see him for a while.
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Basically still a hand built vehicle, fairly low volumes, in an age where selling millions and built by robots is the norm!
That is what I think, and what hippo has posted.
There are plenty of suitable engines that would pass emissions, as bb said, all the other 4wd seem to manage!
The crumple zone and safety issues could have been sorted too, but it just wasnt paying.
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Hippo was on midday Monday, not been around since, hopefully just having a well earned break. Mike
