Will P38's become appreciating Assets ?

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Parisien said:
Can you tell me how and what you used to refurb bumpers?

Also is there a service/life indicator for airbags in the P38?


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No service light, its the SRS warning light that comes on with ignition but is supposed to extinguish, the work around(if you can call it that) is to put tape over the bulb aperture - yeah right, the MOT chap isnt gonna clock that. It has to come on & then extinguish.


For the bumpers, i took him to the garage whos owner was who i bought him from 4 years ago this month, i always trust them although not cheap & they took them both off, prepped & sprayed them in the booth (there was just a few too many stone chips on the front (always had been !) & on the rear there was a crack where i tried to park (whilst in a rush) one day last Dec & i thought the concrete lamp post was a tad further away.:eek::eek: & called myself some very rude words.
When i picked the range rover up, he (the garage owner) commented that he looks in better condition now than when he sold it to me.
 
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alun30th said:
No service light, its the SRS warning light that comes on with ignition but is supposed to extinguish, the work around(if you can call it that) is to put tape over the bulb aperture - yeah right, the MOT chap isnt gonna clock that. It has to come on & then extinguish.


For the bumpers, i took him to the garage whos owner was who i bought him from 4 years ago this month, i always trust them although not cheap & they took them both off, prepped & sprayed them in the booth (there was just a few too many stone chips on the front (always had been !) & on the rear there was a crack where i tried to park (whilst in a rush) one day last Dec & i thought the concrete lamp post was a tad further away.:eek::eek: & called myself some very rude words.
When i picked the range rover up, he (the garage owner) commented that he looks in better condition now than when he sold it to me.
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I notice yours is a 'he'.. mine is a 'she'.

But i've got a new name for her now, 'Gone', as of tomorrow ( today, just seen the time ) all things being equal and the foldings in my hand.. :D
 
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how can anybody base the fact that just because a P38 diesel's got a BMW engine in it that it couldn't become a classic. Who the hell build's the V8's for them? it's certainly not Land Rover.
What difference does the engine make for god sake, Land Rover built the vehicle with that engine in it!!
Are you telling me unless the vehicle manufacturer actually builds the body shell and the engine it will never become a classic?
What a load of rubbish.
 
Davlyn said:
how can anybody base the fact that just because a P38 diesel's got a BMW engine in it that it couldn't become a classic. Who the hell build's the V8's for them? it's certainly not Land Rover.
What difference does the engine make for god sake, Land Rover built the vehicle with that engine in it!!
Are you telling me unless the vehicle manufacturer actually builds the body shell and the engine it will never become a classic?
What a load of rubbish.
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In simple terms, the diesel is an uninspiring engine, it simply cannot compete against a V8 petrol. We are not talking torque figures or MPG, we are talking noise, in stereo, two banks of cylinders, open your window in a tunnel experience, we know its not an aston but we want some sort of relationship with our engines, V8's are just Top Trumps, sorry diesel lovers, but yours are are just, erm ****E.:D
 
Ahhh, the smell of fresh tar, the smell of cut grass, the smell of petrol, the smell of ?????


you get the picture, nobody remembers their first whiff of diesel being a particularly pleasant thing,,,, sorry, but its for tractors, not luxury cars.
 
myfirstl322 said:
In simple terms, the diesel is an uninspiring engine, it simply cannot compete against a V8 petrol. We are not talking torque figures or MPG, we are talking noise, in stereo, two banks of cylinders, open your window in a tunnel experience, we know its not an aston but we want some sort of relationship with our engines, V8's are just Top Trumps, sorry diesel lovers, but yours are are just, erm ****E.:D
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The diesel is quieter and when chipped as quick as the petrol and a fecking site more reliable and as for carrying 100Kg of gas cylinder where the spare wheel should be, well you can stuff that. the P38 diesel will still be going, if well maintaned, long after the ancient Buick based V8 has expired.
I don't buy a car like the Range Rover for noise, I buy for quiet economical long distance cruising, if I want noise I get in my sports car.:p
 
You dont really see any diesel 'classics' purely because a diesel engine is a utilitarian affair, noisy, smelly & very unrefined & usually diesel versions are not to the specification of their petrol brethren.
A Petrol V8 is what should be in a Range Rover, a refined smooth engine. OK, the old american V8 in the P38 is a little long in the tooth by modern standards but still so much better than the noisy slow diesel. The diesel's may still be going in years to come....but nobody will want them.
 
according to HowManyLeft there are about 1300 DHSE's still running out there... so I think it's a way off classic level
 
martynv8 said:
You dont really see any diesel 'classics' purely because a diesel engine is a utilitarian affair, noisy, smelly & very unrefined & usually diesel versions are not to the specification of their petrol brethren.
A Petrol V8 is what should be in a Range Rover, a refined smooth engine. OK, the old american V8 in the P38 is a little long in the tooth by modern standards but still so much better than the noisy slow diesel. The diesel's may still be going in years to come....but nobody will want them.
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What a load of image consious bollocks.
Noisy, rattly, unreliable, short lived describes the Buick V8 with constant ignition problems, lambda problems, worn camshafts etc etc.
The diesel is not noisy except at start up and certainly not smelly, it's not the smoothest 6 in the world but it is economical and reliable and very quiet when cruising.
Each to their own, I would never drive a car with a boot full of gas.
 
martynv8 said:
You dont really see any diesel 'classics' purely because a diesel engine is a utilitarian affair, noisy, smelly & very unrefined & usually diesel versions are not to the specification of their petrol brethren.
A Petrol V8 is what should be in a Range Rover, a refined smooth engine. OK, the old american V8 in the P38 is a little long in the tooth by modern standards but still so much better than the noisy slow diesel. The diesel's may still be going in years to come....but nobody will want them.
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+1


more or less what i said, but without a derogatory hook on my line:D
 
Mines, neither noisy or rattly. It does sound nice when booted though.
I havent come accross a quiet diesel but you live in hope.....even my wifes brand new CLA AMG diesel is noisy.
 
Datatek said:
What a load of image consious bollocks.
Noisy, rattly, unreliable, short lived describes the Buick V8 with constant ignition problems, lambda problems, worn camshafts etc etc.
The diesel is not noisy except at start up and certainly not smelly, it's not the smoothest 6 in the world but it is economical and reliable and very quiet when cruising.
Each to their own, I would never drive a car with a boot full of gas.
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? Rover V8s are wonderfully quiet and smooth when in good fettle. Ignition and Lambda problems affect all petrol engines. Okay the Rover V8 isn't the longest lasting engine in the world given the rather under-stressed tune but most will still see past 100K without too many problems, mine's on 135K and is still silky smooth and quiet. Heavy camshaft wear is the only problem I think could and should have been put to bed years ago and Rover skimped on the liners (should have been top-hat out the factory) but it's by no means a bad engine. It's still one of the lightest V8s in the world.

Note I call it the Rover V8 as construction-wise the Rover and Buick engines were very, very different. The Buick would never have suffered liner slip issues because they were keyed and cast into the block not an interference fit like the sand-cast Rovers. Rover built their engine on the cheap - there's no doubt about that. But it is a legendary engine in its own right (love it or loathe it) and why the V8 will be the classic if a p38 is to become one.
 
:focus:theres only 1 classic that's the first 2 door or a nice csk ,i had the chance of a csk a few years ago and turned it down due to needing some welding and decided to buy a vogue 50 instead bad mistake but I did enjoy the 50 sometimes I regret letting that go aswell:(
 
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