when people say "pulls like a train"

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what do they mean?
1.goes like a hornby model train.
2.accelerates like a rocket ship

i know mine pulls like an old grandad when cold , but after some time does get bit better.

and before anyone starts saying if you want speed you should buy a car.
been there done that.lol
 
For me it's more about having enough torque to pull it's own weight and build up speed, if necessary, over time. Trains don't accelerate like rockets.:D
 
Tazz070299 said:
For me it's more about having enough torque to pull it's own weight and build up speed, if necessary, over time. Trains don't accelerate like rockets.:D
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you should see the flying scotsman shooting past our house go.gr8 for a steam engine.
lol when u get as old as me nearly 49....time is what u havnt got.:5bbeatdeadhorse5:
 
0-60 in under 6 seconds if it's a fast car
80mph effortless towing regardless of gradient (within reason) if it's a truck

Land rovers do neither unfortunately
 
mud muppet said:
you should see the flying scotsman shooting past our house go.gr8 for a steam engine.
lol when u get as old as me nearly 49....time is what u havnt got.:5bbeatdeadhorse5:
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Kinell M8, I'm 64, how the f**k do you think I feel about time???
 
nesponge said:
0-60 in under 6 seconds if it's a fast car
80mph effortless towing regardless of gradient (within reason) if it's a truck

Land rovers do neither unfortunately
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Where the hell can you tow at 80 mph? As far as I was aware the speed limit for towing on motorways and dual carriage ways was 60 mph & 50 for normal roads. Towing any trailer of more than a couple of 100kgs faster than this is ****ing stupid. Any land rover with a 200 tdi onwards is an extemely capable tow vehicle, and are easily capable of pulling vehicles weighing over 20 tonnes.
 
I've just used the term in an eBay advert for a Disco I'm selling. I don't know what it means but everyone else uses it :hysterically_laughi
 
martin1512 said:
Where the hell can you tow at 80 mph? As far as I was aware the speed limit for towing on motorways and dual carriage ways was 60 mph & 50 for normal roads. Towing any trailer of more than a couple of 100kgs faster than this is ****ing stupid. Any land rover with a 200 tdi onwards is an extemely capable tow vehicle, and are easily capable of pulling vehicles weighing over 20 tonnes.
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In the USA you can legally tow at 70mph, but you always want a bit of headroom for stability's sake.

So a vehicle that can tow at 80mph all day long without sweat is a good strong tow car in my opinion.

Something like a ford F-250, which is built for it.

Land rovers are okay towcars, but not nearly as good as the ford.
 
nesponge said:
In the USA you can legally tow at 70mph, but you always want a bit of headroom for stability's sake.

So a vehicle that can tow at 80mph all day long without sweat is a good strong tow car in my opinion.

Something like a ford F-250, which is built for it.

Land rovers are okay towcars, but not nearly as good as the ford.
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:5biagree::5bparty::5bpatriot:
 
nesponge said:
In the USA you can legally tow at 70mph, but you always want a bit of headroom for stability's sake.

So a vehicle that can tow at 80mph all day long without sweat is a good strong tow car in my opinion.

Something like a ford F-250, which is built for it.

Land rovers are okay towcars, but not nearly as good as the ford.
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If we lived in the USA, then I could see some merit in your argument, but we don't. As for "headroom for stabilty sake" that is utter bollocks. I have been driving trailers of up to 4 tons for many years, and I have never had a situation where I have ever had to exceed the speed limit while doing so. In situations where I have had stability problem, I have always been able to regain stabilty by coasting to reduce speed slightly. As for towing with a Landy, my V8 110 will happily tow a 3.5 ton trailer at 60 mph all day, although I will admit that longer or steeper hills require me to shift down to 4th gear, or occasionally 3rd on steeper hills in order to maintain 60.
 
martin1512 said:
If we lived in the USA, then I could see some merit in your argument, but we don't. As for "headroom for stabilty sake" that is utter bollocks. I have been driving trailers of up to 4 tons for many years, and I have never had a situation where I have ever had to exceed the speed limit while doing so. In situations where I have had stability problem, I have always been able to regain stabilty by coasting to reduce speed slightly. As for towing with a Landy, my V8 110 will happily tow a 3.5 ton trailer at 60 mph all day, although I will admit that longer or steeper hills require me to shift down to 4th gear, or occasionally 3rd on steeper hills in order to maintain 60.
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Most trailer handling issues are from improper loading ( to much weight on the rear: not enough tongue weight) Improper tyre inflation of tow vehicle and trailer ( 5-8psi increase make a world of difference ) And the most important is lack of driving skills( lack of towing skills 1-2 times a year) and making lane changes to fast
 
Fur Trapper said:
Most trailer handling issues are from improper loading ( to much weight on the rear: not enough tongue weight) Improper tyre inflation of tow vehicle and trailer ( 5-8psi increase make a world of difference ) And the most important is lack of driving skills( lack of towing skills 1-2 times a year) and making lane changes to fast
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I totally agree, and none of those situations are helped by driving faster, in fact speeding up usually just results in the accident happening sooner and more messily than if you had slowed a little.
 
martin1512 said:
If we lived in the USA, then I could see some merit in your argument, but we don't. As for "headroom for stabilty sake" that is utter bollocks.
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You don't want to be towing at the limit of a vehicles capabilities... you want something that's well within it's parameters. This goes for many things in life.


martin1512 said:
I have been driving trailers of up to 4 tons for many years, and I have never had a situation where I have ever had to exceed the speed limit while doing so. In situations where I have had stability problem, I have always been able to regain stabilty by coasting to reduce speed slightly.
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You sound like a competent driver... good for you

martin1512 said:
As for towing with a Landy, my V8 110 will happily tow a 3.5 ton trailer at 60 mph all day, although I will admit that longer or steeper hills require me to shift down to 4th gear, or occasionally 3rd on steeper hills in order to maintain 60.
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Excellent, but that doesn't mean the landy pulls like a train... more like "It gets me there... that's good enough for me"
 
i'm thinking more along these lines at 70+ mph :)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEaxIAavbeM]Dodge 6.7 towing 43 foot toy hauler - YouTube[/ame]
 
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