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I'm 99% sure that LPG is £15 per year cheaper than your standard rate whatever that may be. I've never bothered about chasing the difference before but as I plan to keep this one, I'll be submitting the forms!

Apparently you have to send your V5 in changing the fuel to Bi-Fuel and a copy of your LPG conversion cert and then it gets amended and your next tax reminder should be at the lower rate.

Like I said only 99% sure so that does leave room for me to be talking out of my :mooning:
 
Castor said:
so can one self-certify?
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Not if you want insurance. There's a trade body called UKLPG and they've managed to get many (not yet all) insurance companies to require a UKLPG certificate before they'll sell you insurance.

http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/advice-and-information/uklpg-vehicle-register/

My first installation was done pre-UKLPG, but I still needed it inspected by a professional fitter. They gave you a green certificate, the UKLPG system involves entering your car on their database.
 
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MrGorsky said:
Not if you want insurance. There's a trade body called UKLPG and they've managed to get many (not yet all) insurance companies to require a UKLPG certificate before they'll sell you insurance.
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I really hate it when people spot a gap in the regulation market and pull a stunt like UKLPG have.
Vultures, parasites. Con-merchants. Grotesque excuses for human beings. Bringers of unnecessary bull**** regulation.
 
MrGorsky said:
but I still needed it inspected by a professional fitter.
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How long before you aren't allowed to touch your own car?

Anyone here remember the Germans and the "type approval" stitch-up?

(For what it's worth, a large part of my professional role is assessing the competency of professional engineers to design and build systems on Nuclear, Oil & Gas & other potentially dangerous installations - I have nothing against correct and appropriate regulation).
 
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MrGorsky said:
Not if you want insurance. There's a trade body called UKLPG and they've managed to get many (not yet all) insurance companies to require a UKLPG certificate before they'll sell you insurance.

UKLPG Vehicle Register

My first installation was done pre-UKLPG, but I still needed it inspected by a professional fitter. They gave you a green certificate, the UKLPG system involves entering your car on their database.
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So if I buy a lpg conversion landy I have to declare it's been converted and get a certificate to say so?
 
m1dge said:
So if I buy a lpg conversion landy I have to declare it's been converted and get a certificate to say so?
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Most already have the correct certificate.

If it doesn't (and you can check on their website if your car is on the database) you need to take it to a UKLPG accredited installer and have them check it and put it on the database. Once it's on ( and a lot of cars already are) it stays on for life.

It is a stitch up, but fewer and fewer insurers are giving insurance without it. I got mine done so I could renew!

If you get your car converted, make sure the installer can do the IKLPG check, and if you buy a kit from Tinley Tech…. well they'll put you on too, after they've inspected your work.
 
Really learning a lot on here! I'm completely new to the 4x4 world and not even bought a landy as yet but I'm certainly learning a he'll of a lot. Thanks guys.
 
m1dge said:
Really learning a lot on here! I'm completely new to the 4x4 world and not even bought a landy as yet but I'm certainly learning a he'll of a lot. Thanks guys.
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Like it's been said, most cars will come with a certificate to show that it's been fitted to a certain standard blah blah blah but the main purpose for the cert is that some insurance companies can be a real pain without one and won't insure you so it is quite important to check that it's present.

I think it was mentioned but there should be a database of who fit what when and where but it's a lot easier if you have the paperwork in hand!
 
weimieman said:
Like it's been said, most cars will come with a certificate to show that it's been fitted to a certain standard blah blah blah but the main purpose for the cert is that some insurance companies can be a real pain without one and won't insure you so it is quite important to check that it's present.

I think it was mentioned but there should be a database of who fit what when and where but it's a lot easier if you have the paperwork in hand!
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Makes sense really so will be checking for that!

A little off subject.... what would cost more to run fuel wise. A 4.0 lpg or 2.5 diesel engine? if I'm thinking right a 4 litre lpg would burn fuel twice as fast(or there abouts) as a 2.5 diesel so would need filling up more. So even though lpg is cheaper at the pump, if your filling up the 4.0 litre twice as much as would would be the 2.5 diesel(because it's burning more fuel) your not really saving any money running lpg?

Hope somebody can understand this and help me out :D
 
This will set the arguments off but here's my 2 penneth.

On a good run i average 18mpg on LPG (mine is a 4.6 with sequential system).
I pay 55p/ltr for LPG
So, running costs would be approx 14p/mile
Assuming hypothetically a 2.5 diesel gets approx 32 mpg on a good run - just a guess
Take an average cost per ltr of £1.15
So, running cost would be approx 16p/mile.

Obviously short journeys on LPG will drop the MPG & you will use more Petrol on start - ups etc.
My general average on LPG is around 15mpg
I wouldn't suggest you would save on LPG over the 2.5 diesel. Factor in LPG servicing (which is minimal with a good, well fitted system).

PS, don't assume a 4.0l will give substantial savings on running cost, not much between the 4.0 & 4.6 (especially a 4.6 Thor). The 4.6 has a better transmission.
 
martynv8 said:
This will set the arguments off but here's my 2 penneth.

On a good run i average 18mpg on LPG (mine is a 4.6 with sequential system).
I pay 55p/ltr for LPG
So, running costs would be approx 14p/mile
Assuming hypothetically a 2.5 diesel gets approx 32 mpg on a good run - just a guess
Take an average cost per ltr of £1.15
So, running cost would be approx 16p/mile.

Obviously short journeys on LPG will drop the MPG & you will use more Petrol on start - ups etc.
My general average on LPG is around 15mpg
I wouldn't suggest you would save on LPG over the 2.5 diesel. Factor in LPG servicing (which is minimal with a good, well fitted system).

PS, don't assume a 4.0l will give substantial savings on running cost, not much between the 4.0 & 4.6 (especially a 4.6 Thor). The 4.6 has a better transmission.
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LPG is marginally cheaper in the UK if you discount dropped liners, service costs etc. In France diesel is much cheaper and LPG prices have barely dropped, certainly not in line with the drop in petrol/diesel. I'm paying £0.84 a litre for diesel, long term average is 24mpg, on a run close to 30mpg
 
With the miles I do per year, I've always worked on the fact that LPG costs a couple of quid a week more to run so it really is choice, diesel or petrol. I don't do a lot of miles though so don't assume my formulas would work for you!!!
 
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