What did I mess up on here?

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

So far I've done..
New swivel
New cv joint

Bolt in and there is play when it's straight can see it move in the freely (when no flange on), left and right.. just when I'm pulling the thing there's no more leg room to pull out to put the circlip on?

Hicap phill · Oct 13, 2023

Have you rotated the hub?
Put it on full lock?

It should free float. Could the length of the new cv be differnt

marjon · Oct 13, 2023

I dont know, I am sure the faces are clean on the flange.
Does the flange move out when you pull on the shaft?
But did you happen to compare old v new before fitting?
Did you happen to take a pic of the inside of the new balls?

But I am afraid to say I guess its all got to come apart again

.

@Brown had some dodgey swivel balls once if I remember.

J

KISSMYAURA · Oct 13, 2023

sure you got the right cv? if not the wheel hub wont go all the way on

v8250 · Oct 13, 2023

marjon said:
I dont know, I am sure the faces are clean on the flange.
Does the flange move out when you pull on the shaft?
But did you happen to compare old v new before fitting?
Did you happen to take a pic of the inside of the new balls?

But I am afraid to say I guess its all got to come apart again.

@Brown had some dodgey swivel balls once if I remember.

J

+1 to the above + @Brown 's balls were fouling and needed a small area buzzing back to fit. Or, did he send them back for replacements?

marjon · Oct 13, 2023

KISSMYAURA said:
sure you got the right cv? if not the wheel hub wont go all the way on

This is the second side he has done, without the issue on the first side.
So me thinks parts would be the same, so suspect manufacturing issue?
Or a mismatch on his axle, side to side maybe? (that being a thought in type, not knowledge based).

J

tottot · Oct 13, 2023

Has the flange been changed? There are different depth's

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

No the old flange is the same issue. It’s like the CV doesn’t come out enough but I did check the sizes and it’s the right size etc. I’ve pulled and even tried to use a puller to get anything but it won’t pull out any further

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

tottot said:
Has the flange been changed? There are different depth's

The 300tdi doesn’t fit the 200tdi btw the inner flange is bigger than the 200tdi but that’s not the issue here. When I took it apart I took off two shims and a circlip and I can’t even get them outside th e flange now lol

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

KISSMYAURA said:
sure you got the right cv? if not the wheel hub wont go all the way on

Hub is fully on been on for a few days and even checked for leaks no play everything looks normal

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

marjon said:
I dont know, I am sure the faces are clean on the flange.
Does the flange move out when you pull on the shaft?
But did you happen to compare old v new before fitting?
Did you happen to take a pic of the inside of the new balls?

But I am afraid to say I guess its all got to come apart again.

@Brown had some dodgey swivel balls once if I remember.

J

Yeah checked everything was 1:1 literally no play outwards at all

Dr Strangeglove · Oct 13, 2023

I had this issue but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. I think it was a case of taking it apart and refitting it and jiggling it a bit.

Sorry I can't be more helpful but it did go back together - but I didn't change my CVs.

Mine was the left hand side.

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

I was having a Google and some people just said drive it for a mile and it should budge. I mean even on full lock it’s not going in much so if it does hit the swivel.. oh well lol

RustyDefender · Oct 13, 2023

Also does look like tons of outer cv joint here

Hicap phill · Oct 14, 2023

RustyDefender said:
Also does look like tons of outer cv joint here

You need to measure the length from the rear of the CV. Bet it’s shorter than the old one.

marjon · Oct 14, 2023

But in your pics that you have last posted you have a different drive flange (are they from the other side?)
Have you a new drive flange for the side you are now having problems with as it appears to be an old 1 in the original pic?

Is leading towards a mismatch of parts old and new?

J

RustyDefender · Oct 14, 2023

I have new drive flanges. However the issue is the same with the original drive flange

RustyDefender · Oct 14, 2023

300tdi drive flanges don’t fit on the 200tdi btw as the inner diameter is bigger on the 300tdi flanges. But I’ve no idea what my issue is even on full lock (me moving the swivel) I can’t get it to move either.

Brown · Oct 15, 2023

I see people have been talking about me - I haven't looked in here for a few days so missed it. There are pictures of what I did on the 'What have you done to your Landy' thread, beginning here: https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/what-have-you-done-to-your-landie-today.62254/post-4954513 The CV joints kept fouling on the insides of the balls so I ground a bit off. Initially I tried with a Dremel type tool but that wasn't shifting much metal with its tiny sanding and grinding attachments so I bought a cheap die grinder off Amazon for about £25 and that shifted the excess metal very easily. The swivels have been OK for several tens of thousands of miles since then so it clearly didn't weaken them too much.

The pictures of the actual swivels being ground out are on a different thread here: https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/brakes-and-bearings.363222/

RustyDefender · Oct 15, 2023

Brown said:
I see people have been talking about me - I haven't looked in here for a few days so missed it. There are pictures of what I did on the 'What have you done to your Landy' thread, beginning here: https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/what-have-you-done-to-your-landie-today.62254/post-4954513 The CV joints kept fouling on the insides of the balls so I ground a bit off. Initially I tried with a Dremel type tool but that wasn't shifting much metal with its tiny sanding and grinding attachments so I bought a cheap die grinder off Amazon for about £25 and that shifted the excess metal very easily. The swivels have been OK for several tens of thousands of miles since then so it clearly didn't weaken them too much.

The pictures of the actual swivels being ground out are on a different thread here: https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/brakes-and-bearings.363222/

Thanks for replying!

So your CV hit the bottom bit where you had to grind out? No issues since then?

I’m not up for taking it all back off, going to just throw it all back together then drive 50 meters and if there’s no movement from the cv I’ll then remove it all.

Did your cv / swivel still move left to right and did you hear any metal sounds if it was hitting?

What did I mess up on here?

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