Disco 2 Waxoyl or Not

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cachophrastus said:

How about spamming my google results page with a load of untrue crap in order to drive my customers onto this forum?
It's not a winning strategy. There are probably several regulars on here keeping silent but who know people whose cars I've done or whose own car was done by me.
If you put your credibility up against mine you will lose. Big time! Like the unfounded attacks on me from ORRP. Users deserted in droves. Like landrovernet regulars when the scales fell from their eyes.

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I think you worry too much.

A man's reputation speaks for itself, your work has mixed reviews, your reputation for how you deal with that has many that would normally speak up for you staying silent.

In my opinion you are the biggest risk to your companies reputation.

Your market is a tightly knit world and word gets around whether it's quality work or wild accusations and legal action.

The hit you take from dummy spitting on the internet will never be offset by getting everything you can removed from search results or the considerable amount advertising must cost you.

If I was you I'd concentrate on doing a quality job and resolving issues with the occasional unsatisfied customer, even if it means it costs you a bit.

When you start throwing around accusations of set ups by rivals, steam cleaning scammers and the like satisfied customers keep their heads down.

cachophrastus said:

How about spamming my google results page with a load of untrue crap in order to drive my customers onto this forum?

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Thank you for your very kind offer, I would love to, but that's not how the internet works. Please extract your head from your a hole and spend a little time reading about how google searches/crawls the web to generate search results. Plus, you don't have "a google results page" - it's not yours.
Plus.... spend a bit more time reading about how the internet works. In this case, it's a bit like quicksand, in as much as every time you ...lets be optimistic and say "contribute" to this thread and any others about you, you increase the page activity and in the quicksand analogy, you sink a bit further, or in actual terms of http traffic, you increase the footprint of this and other threads.

Now THAT is not a winning strategy... except for people looking to have their cars sprayed with cavity wax type products, because this will now be showing with those results quite well.

cachophrastus said:

It's not a winning strategy. There are probably several regulars on here keeping silent but who know people whose cars I've done or whose own car was done by me.
If you put your credibility up against mine you will lose. Big time! Like the unfounded attacks on me from ORRP. Users deserted in droves. Like landrovernet regulars when the scales fell from their eyes.

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Listen cackystrapon, credibility is not really a word that you should be putting out there, especially as your customers/supporters are conspicuously absent, not because we're all intimidating, but because of some other reason - maybe you thought the jobs you did for them were better than they did? Maybe they're happy enough but don't care about bickering on the internet? Maybe there actually aren't any of your other customers on LZ because they've done a bit of research on the web and found a few bad reviews of your work?

There's a lot of irony in your exaggerated statements about scales falling from peoples eyes... Slow learner aren't we cacky?

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It's true I've been known to wear me shreddies on the outside but a certain amount of confusion is to be expected at my age

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cachophrastus said:

How about my google results page it's not a winning strategy. There are probably several regulars on here keeping silent but who know people whose cars I've done or whose own car was done by me. Users deserted in droves. Like landrovernet regulars when the scales fell from their eyes.

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Seriously ?

There are 2 quite separate issues:

1. Does he (before & after) do a good job?

2. How does he treat his customers?

I have had 2 Discos treated by him - a D1 in around 2003 and my current D2 in 2009. I had to take the D1 back after 4 years under the "guarantee" as rust was showing through - he did retreat it but with a very bad grace, saying that it had been very rusty when originally treated (it wasn't and of course he didn't mention it at the time). I have to say that when I sold the car in 2009 there was no significant rot even in the boot floor / wheel arch areas. This work was done at his original premises at Greenham Common, in a very unpleasant environment.

I was less impressed by the work done on the D2. The cross member and the tank support both had a very patchy and light coating and this year I needed a substantial repair to one rear spring mount. The tailgate bottom has rotted out to some extent. The nearside front wheel arch is holed. I accept this is well outside his "guarantee" period although much of the defects appeared well within it. Given his attitude on all the occasions we met I decided not to bother with what would probably be an unpleasant exchange if I tried to claim on his guarantee.

The treatment was carried out at his current premises in Warwickshire, located in semi derelict buildings behind some (at the time) very run-down farm buildings.

But the main reason I wouldn't go back to him is not the quality of the work but the argumentative and hostile approach he has to his customers. The contract and "guarantee" are riddled with caveats and get-out clauses. He doesn't offer his customers anywhere to sit or relax but leaves them out in the cold. He will not allow them to see any of the work taking place. For someone charging nearly £600 this is not acceptable.

However, I am not able to recommend any alternatives.

Ouch...


It doesn't sound surprising though.

You wait, in a little while he'll be on here telling everyone how unreasonable a customer you were, what a great job he did at significant loss etc. etc..

So effectively its Bilt or Dino
Find a reputable local garage that i can trust to fill my cavities?(sic)
Thankyou for the entertainment guys
Now who wants to go the the hospital and take the p.i.s.s out of sick people?
( Urologists do it all the time , so it must be okay)