Warm/hot engine starting problems

Gaz5535 · Jan 25, 2015

Another little problem I have with my ol 38 (diesel ). Is the amount of cranking it takes to start the engine when hot, especially when you leave it for more than 2 or 3 minutes or more. When it is cold it starts straight up obviously when the glow plug are induced to work by the engine sensors. Anybody got any ideas?

Gaz

wammers · Jan 25, 2015

Do a search this has been done to death.

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

wammers said:
Do a search this has been done to death.

There are times when you just cannot be arsed.

wammers · Jan 25, 2015

tomcat59alan said:
There are times when you just cannot be arsed.

Alan i have gone through that so many times, it is not funny anymore. More than likely someone will look back copy my answers and post them as their own so why bother.

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

wammers said:
Alan i have gone through that so many times, it is not funny anymore. More than likely someone will look back copy my answers and post them as their own so why bother.

True, there are times when you feel like a parrot, as you say, best leave it to someone else to take the glory. But, we do know better, don't we.

Dopey · Jan 25, 2015

Buy my book... it has all the answers in it, its £21.95 from all good (and bad) bookshops... its called "Google"

Grrrrrr · Jan 25, 2015

You never know, he may already have the hot start fix fitted? On mine it looks like a little blackbox that is tied into the engine ECU (box behind the battery).

Google hot-start fix for BMW M51 engine. I think BMW fixed the issue later but I'm not sure which year.

wammers · Jan 25, 2015

Grrrrrr said:
You never know, he may already have the hot start fix fitted? On mine it looks like a little blackbox that is tied into the engine ECU (box behind the battery).

Google hot-start fix for BMW M51 engine. I think BMW fixed the issue later but I'm not sure which year.

Went someway to a cure in 1999 by powering lift pump on cranking.

dogsbody · Jan 25, 2015

Gaz5535 said:
Another little problem I have with my ol 38 (diesel ). Is the amount of cranking it takes to start the engine when hot, especially when you leave it for more than 2 or 3 minutes or more. When it is cold it starts straight up obviously when the glow plug are induced to work by the engine sensors. Anybody got any ideas?

Gaz

Chain stretches, pump wears, hot starting becomes a problem.
Get pump set up to account for chain stretch or
fit little gizmo (timed relay) to bring the heater plugs on every time

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

dogsbody said:
Chain stretches, pump wears, hot starting becomes a problem.
Get pump set up to account for chain stretch or
fit little gizmo (timed relay) to bring the heater plugs on every time

You been reading Wammers posts and going for glory ?

Gaz5535 · Jan 25, 2015

Thanks Dogsbody, appreciate your help, with this, it's a bit of a minefields trawling through all the posts on a smart phone. you should defect to Range Rover.net, they are as friendly and helpful as you (not as sarcastic as a lot of peeps on this site! )
Seems like the best advice is to knock the injector pump towards the engine a couple of mm.
Gaz

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

Gaz5535 said:
Thanks Dogsbody, appreciate your help, with this, it's a bit of a minefields trawling through all the posts on a smart phone. you should defect to Range Rover.net, they are as friendly and helpful as you (not as sarcastic as a lot of peeps on this site! )
Seems like the best advice is to knock the injector pump towards the engine a couple of mm.
Gaz

Now now, if you cannot bother to find the search box and cannot take a bit of stick you know where to go and if you cannot find it the site is Range Rover.net. Put your location in and we will arrange someone to call round and fix your engine. If the only advice from the other site is to "knock the injector pump towards the engine" then I think I will stick with this forum. Yes, we are sarcastic, **** taking, helpful and friendly, you really should get out more and meet other people so you know what social intercourse is like. Anyway, rant over, I do hope you find better info on this site than that which you have been given elsewhere.

dogsbody · Jan 25, 2015

tomcat59alan said:
You been reading Wammers posts and going for glory ?

I drive a P38 diesel. I do my own repairs.

dogsbody · Jan 25, 2015

Gaz5535 said:
Thanks Dogsbody, appreciate your help, with this, it's a bit of a minefields trawling through all the posts on a smart phone. you should defect to Range Rover.net, they are as friendly and helpful as you (not as sarcastic as a lot of peeps on this site! )
Seems like the best advice is to knock the injector pump towards the engine a couple of mm.
Gaz

I would never suggest that anybody touches a diesel injector pump unless they know exactly what they are doing.

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

dogsbody said:
I drive a P38 diesel. I do my own repairs.

I know, don't you get all arsy, it's enough with Gaz getting me all upset

And how did you know the flowered flip flops were mine?

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

dogsbody said:
I would never suggest that anybody touches a diesel injector pump unless they know exactly what they are doing.

Is that Range Rover.net's advice? Wait till wammers wakes up from his afternoon nap, he will have a field day

dogsbody · Jan 25, 2015

tomcat59alan said:
I know, don't you get all arsy, it's enough with Gaz getting me all upset And how did you know the flowered flip flops were mine?

You've got a groove on your hip from your hand being there so often. I felt it at the last orgy.

tomcat59alan · Jan 25, 2015

dogsbody said:
You've got a groove on your hip from your hand being there so often. I felt it at the last orgy.

I've been like that since I lost a roll of carpet.

keeps my hands out of my pockest

Gaz5535 · Jan 25, 2015

dogsbody said:
I would never suggest that anybody touches a diesel injector pump unless they know exactly what they are doing.

Hello well I do most of my fixes, I have restored a lot of vehicles over the years. If I can't fix things then I# drag my mechanic away from repairing my trucks and plant. He's pretty wiz at that sort of stuff, he built a an injector pump out of bits for a 70's 955L Caterpillar engine last year, including all the governor mechanism. It pushes like a train now!
Gaz

dogsbody · Jan 25, 2015

Gaz5535 said:
Hello well I do most of my fixes, I have restored a lot of vehicles over the years. If I can't fix things then I# drag my mechanic away from repairing my trucks and plant. He's pretty wiz at that sort of stuff, he built a an injector pump out of bits for a 70's 955L Caterpillar engine last year, including all the governor mechanism. It pushes like a train now!
Gaz

I think that he would fit the criteria of "knowing what you're doing"

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