Vehicle pulls L/Right

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alfapat

alfapat

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Has anyone experienced this problem I have ?
Recent MOT pass and tracking done . But before and after on acceleration the car dives to right then back to left . Before the MOT . I thought that maybe the bottom arm might be causing this fault and warned the tester of it . They couldn’t find anything wrong.
Does this ring any thoughts to anyone please .

Freelander 2 '08 plate
 
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Is only under hard acceleration? If so it sounds like torque steer, which will happen if there's no drive to the rear diff.
 
Nodge68 said:
Is only under hard acceleration? If so it sounds like torque steer, which will happen if there's no drive to the rear diff.
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I know I dont drive it often , its my partners car , but its never done this before , quite disconcerting. Its quite a definite dive to the right as the power comes in and then as you slacken off it pops to the left.
 
alfapat said:
I know I dont drive it often , its my partners car , but its never done this before , quite disconcerting. Its quite a definite dive to the right as the power comes in and then as you slacken off it pops to the left.
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It does sound like it's running as a FWD. There's a lot of torque available, which can overwhelm the front wishbone hydro-bushes, causing noticeable torque steer under acceleration. The counter steering when lifting off the power is the bushes returning to their normal dimensions again.
My TD4 would also do it to a degree, when the Haldex fuse was pulled. It was particularly noticeable on roads with a strong camber, or were damp.
It's likely there is an issue with some part of the AWD system, which is highlighting weakness in the front suspension bushes.
I've also come across a Freelander that had a failed drive shaft, which resulted in some very strange driving characteristics.
 
Nodge68 said:
It does sound like it's running as a FWD. There's a lot of torque available, which can overwhelm the front wishbone hydro-bushes, causing noticeable torque steer under acceleration. The counter steering when lifting off the power is the bushes returning to their normal dimensions again.
My TD4 would also do it to a degree, when the Haldex fuse was pulled. It was particularly noticeable on roads with a strong camber, or were damp.
It's likely there is an issue with some part of the AWD system, which is highlighting weakness in the front suspension bushes.
I've also come across a Freelander that had a failed drive shaft, which resulted in some very strange driving characteristics.
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Thank you , Iam now thinking I will change the drivers bottom arm , The passenger was changed at least two years ago , so possibly an in balance ,
I think your right with your theory though , best I eliminate the arm first.
 
Sounds like torque steer to me too… that’s where I’d be looking first, to prove or disprove, before replacing parts.
 
alfapat said:
Thank you , Iam now thinking I will change the drivers bottom arm , The passenger was changed at least two years ago , so possibly an in balance ,
I think your right with your theory though , best I eliminate the arm first.
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It's always best to replace suspension components in pairs, especially those with rubber bushes that soften with age.
Replace the other side and have a wheel alignment done, which is vital when wishbones are replaced on these.
 
Nodge68 said:
It's always best to replace suspension components in pairs, especially those with rubber bushes that soften with age.
Replace the other side and have a wheel alignment done, which is vital when wishbones are replaced on these.
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So that’s caliper checked and new discs and pads fitted , also Rh lower arm replaced and still moves left and right on acceleration/deceleration.
Only thing I can do now is balance the Right with new Lh lower arm .
Notice that both Front tyres worn badly on inner treads , so a thought goes to swapping them to the rear ?
Tyre pressures checked and put your 35 instead of 32 psi , not really showing an improvement.
 
So you’ve replaced the brakes and 1 lower arm, and still have the problem?!? Why did you replace the brakes?
The advice was to replace the lower arms in pairs…
Have you actually established if the car is running in 2nd or 4wd yet?

Swapping the tyres to the back does not resolve why they are wearing on the inner treads either. That needs full 4 wheel tracking to be done.
 
Because the the nearside arm was changed 23/24 and everything was fine , now it may have caught up in that time so I will have to eliminate this by changing it.
The brakes were changed because the nearside dics was decidedly dodgy and when I dismantled the offside to ft the new lower arm the pads fell apart so I have renewed all !

Aye I realise your advice was there and I had only bought one side at that time , my reason explained earlier.

I had already done the tracking when I discovered the wear. I kind of know that it would have to be done again now that the arm has been changed , but that would be three times if I did it and changed the nearside arm. So I am stalling on that for the moment . I will swap the tyres round anyway.
 
I guess not if he front is jacked up , I'm able spin the front freely.. I assume it goes four if slip is detected.
 
alfapat said:
I guess not if he front is jacked up , I'm able spin the front freely.. I assume it goes four if slip is detected.
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Correct - it’s not permanent 4wd split 50/50.
But does it engage correctly if slip is detected? Especially on pull-away, or do the wheels spin up at the front? If they are spinning on pull-away, then what you describe could be torque-steer due to running in 2nd only.
 
Both Front arms on now driving a lot straighter , the culprit was the younger arm which threw my thinking and booked in for 4 wheel check now. I tried booking in to A local Halfords and they informed they don’t do 4Wheel checking , looking for refund there !
 
There's quite a lot of inexperienced guys doing tracking these days, especially places where the "machine does it all".!! Find somewhere with a more experienced guy.
 
pwood999 said:
There's quite a lot of inexperienced guys doing tracking these days, especially places where the "machine does it all".!! Find somewhere with a more experienced guy.
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What I hate is even when Halfords did the front without saying it really needs to be 4wheel , they left the steering wheel squint!
 
alfapat said:
What I hate is even when Halfords did the front without saying it really needs to be 4wheel , they left the steering wheel squint!
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All vehicles which have adjustable rear need to have all four wheels adjusted. The rear are adjusted first and then the fronts in relation to the rear.
 
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