UziSuzi 2.8 engine conversion questions

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Isuzu is good but personally daihatsu wins for me. I think 115mph is a bit over the top. My s1 2.8 intercooled will top out at around the 90 mark in overdrive with the engine on max chat. Maybe with some rangey diffs it would top the 100 mark.
Going to test this theroy after xmas once my diffs are changed.
I run a s2a box which takes the abuse of a 3 ton car transporter trailer so cant see there being a problem with a s3.
 
Provided the output shafts are on the correct side of the gearbox, I'd think about using a Trooper gearbox, that way you won't need to spend all that money on a conversion kit and you'll have a gearbox which is designed to take the torque of a 2.8td. Sounds like using a 2a gearbox might be a good compromise though as you won't have to mess about making a new transmission tunnel, making linkages for the handbrake and possibly moving X-members, plus you'll be able to have all that fun double-de-clutching:) If you go for a series gearbox make sure that the kit works with that particular gearbox; I ran into trouble trying to fit a transit engine to a 2a box because the slave cylinder on a 2a box is in a different place to a s3 box.
 
Afternoon All,
(New kid on the Engine block)!

Got a Series 2A with an Isuzu 2800 Turbo Diesel block.
All was well until alternator packed up.
As there's no original VIN from the donor vehicle, and the original alternator is a rebuild so unmarked, I'm having difficulty knowing what a good replacement unit is. So phone calls to Isuzu and others prove fruitless.

Can anyone suggest a compatible alternator? Hope so.
Many thanks.

regards

Peter
 
pjjmcc said:
Afternoon All,
(New kid on the Engine block)!

Got a Series 2A with an Isuzu 2800 Turbo Diesel block.
All was well until alternator packed up.
As there's no original VIN from the donor vehicle, and the original alternator is a rebuild so unmarked, I'm having difficulty knowing what a good replacement unit is. So phone calls to Isuzu and others prove fruitless.

Can anyone suggest a compatible alternator? Hope so.
Many thanks.

regards

Peter
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i wouldnt go to an isuzu dealer yul probly need a cup of sweet tea wen they tell you the price of one.try and find an independant place for a service ex or have yours recond.
 
DefenderItalia said:
Hi Dirk (an all) your choice of engine can only be beaten by a new 300 TDi (which costs 5 times more!) I have a 1987 110 converted to an Isuzu 2.8TD and it goes like a rocket, with torque to pull a ship. Only thing, I have no idea how to calibrate the water temp sender unit to the LR gauge on the dashboard. If any of you has a suggestion I'd be delighted to hear from you, as for the last year I have been driving on the assumption the engine was fine, if any problems would come I'd only see it if steam came off the engine ;).

Dirk Incidentally if you do convert your landie to an isuzu 2.8, given the low(er) torque of the engine, it would work a treat with a 1:1.222 discovery transfer box, with slightly longer gearing in 3rd, 4th and 5th, so you'd return an average 30 / 32MPG on combined fuel consumption

Thanks folks, G
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can u put the disco box on a series box?????
 
pjjmcc said:
Afternoon All,
(New kid on the Engine block)!

Got a Series 2A with an Isuzu 2800 Turbo Diesel block.
All was well until alternator packed up.
As there's no original VIN from the donor vehicle, and the original alternator is a rebuild so unmarked, I'm having difficulty knowing what a good replacement unit is. So phone calls to Isuzu and others prove fruitless.

Can anyone suggest a compatible alternator? Hope so.
Many thanks.

regards

Peter
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Hi Peter - replaced my 45 amp with a heavu duty Trooper 3.1 alternator as I run double forg lighs, works a treat. Contact eBay UK Shop - Electrostart2006: Ford, Volkswagen Seat, Vauxhall Opel and send a note with requirements, that is not very cheap but the products are 100% new and the service very good

G
 
when i fitted the 2.8 isuzu 2.8 it was 4 year ago and the were just starting to make the kit and they did not make any monts so you nad to make your own. as for gearboxs i ran with a seires 3 box and i got a year before the frist one sized. but the biggest prob that i had was the emount of halfshafts i whent through the most was 7 in a week. this was with a rover axle never got around to putting in a sailsbury one.
some dont belve me on the 115 mph bit this true but you need good nerves to this speed in a seires 3. as for the 2.8td daihatsu engines i dont like them i have one in a 110 csw and it could not pull the skin off custard. so i am removing it and fitting a disco 300tdi.
 
Hiya - I am planning to do the same as I will be traveling across Europe / North Africa to go Surfing, so need an engine that the bush mechanics know - 300TDi it is then.

As you are planning the same on a 110, do you know if the Disco 300TDi transplant is a difficult one? Also I am replacing the LT85 (in very good condition) with a Disci R380 + LT230 TBOX - Would you know if I will finally go fater now?

G

Isuzu engine and LTbox for sale shortly
 
hi as far as ave read and seen the disco engine is not too hard to fit because its nearly the same engine as fitted to the factory fitted defender 300tdi.
but the disco box would bw very hard to fit because the mountings are differnt plus the gear leaver is in a differnt place.to slove this iam useing the gearbox which is in the 110 and mine is the lt77 but changing the transferbox for a 200tdi disco one.doing this it will raise the high ratio gearing and leave the low ratio the same.
they are a few pages on here which peple have done the 300tdi change look for it under 300 TDi upgrade and try this link i have found it helpful Landrover 110 engine page
 
tabbahenry....
What are you doing with the Daihatsu lump. will it be up for sale.
If it is as crap as you say it wont fetch much money so I would be willing to take it of your hands.......
Mine is intercooled and does pull well, over 2years of use and not a single halfshaft....(kiss-of-death comment)
 
What exactly is required to convert landy to Isuzu power..?

Forget engine mountings cause they can be made up, but how does the gearbox input shaft fit into the clutch or can you use a Land Rover clutch plate to overcome that problem..?

Which is the best gearbox to use regarding getting it to fit..? I'm thinking about bell housing lengths, input shafts and cheapest way of doing it really.:)

I have an LT77 out of a diesel Disco and a 2.8 TD Isuzu engine in my scrap jap.
The gearbox / T/B out of the zoo zoo is no good for landy cause it's permanent two wheel drive so it would be better using land rover boxes.

Any one know about clutch plates and if they will swap ?
 
hi the Daihatsu lump is going to the dump because the turbo has nackered and the head gasket is gone and the rings are blowing by as for fitting a izuzu i will post a mesage later when i rember all which has to be done
 
HI landowner - re. conversion, the bits that you need are faily easy:

Engine
Conversion plate

There are a few specialists that do conversion kits.

Conversion & Precision - Quality Engine Fitting Kits

there you will find conversions into lt77, lt85, r380 and even lt95 if you want to go old school (LT85 rocks)
M&d engineering also do those but they charge more.

Steve Parker also has the adaptors too i think, as ewll as the exhausts systems.

Mine is a 2.8TD with a LT85. Due to the low rev torque of the Isuzu I have heard that the LT85 heavy duty gearbox is the safest bet, as the LT77 often goes after a few thousand miles (so i have heard, not my words)

Hope this helps
 
DefenderItalia said:
HI landowner - re. conversion, the bits that you need are faily easy:

Engine
Conversion plate

There are a few specialists that do conversion kits.

Conversion & Precision - Quality Engine Fitting Kits

there you will find conversions into lt77, lt85, r380 and even lt95 if you want to go old school (LT85 rocks)
M&d engineering also do those but they charge more.

Steve Parker also has the adaptors too i think, as ewll as the exhausts systems.

Mine is a 2.8TD with a LT85. Due to the low rev torque of the Isuzu I have heard that the LT85 heavy duty gearbox is the safest bet, as the LT77 often goes after a few thousand miles (so i have heard, not my words)

Hope this helps
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Yup, ta,..well almost
does the landy gearbox input shaft fit into the zoo zoo clutch then ? or will things have to be changed, because if an adaptor plate is sandwiched betwixed engine and gearbox then will the shaft reach into the clutch Ok..?
 
Hi Landowner - regrettably I would not be able to confirm on that one. I believe the plate will still allow the shaft into the plate, HOWEVER I'd advise calling the professionals to confirm details before getting stuck half way though
G
 
i've just picked up a 110 been fitted with 40,000 miles 2.8 n/a isuzu, engine seems mint but as i have it stripped for new chassis was gonna fit 300tdi from disco? dont know which is best, isuzu seems to have good pull but not too quick off the mark. looks like lt77 box, front mounts have been moved rearwards. any advice?
 
Hi FinBar - I also have a 110 with an Isuzu 2.8 TD.

The decision on replacing the 2.8 Isuzu with a 300TDi is very much dependento on wether you are planning long range travel expecially Africa, where mechanics know 300 TDis better. Alternatively, the Isuzu engine is known to be virtually indestructible

If the engine is properly looked after (it sounds like it will!) it will last a million miles, especially if it is the 4JB1T v heavy duty version with cam gear instead of cam belts. I have heard that because of the Isuzu torque the LT77 box goes quicker (not my words, mind you!), and an R380 or LT95 (the one I have) are more suitable.

Likely your 110 would have been either a sluggish 2.5Diesel or a thirsty V8, and either way I believe you will require to re-position the engine mounts, especially as it is likely that a 300 engine will be sourced from a Disco.

There is plenty of advice on the net re. the work which will set you back around £1,000 / £1,250, as once the engine is in there will still be plenty of work for fuel, rads, int'cooler, electrics, or electronics, etc.

If you have decided to go for it, it so just happens that decided last week i will not proceed with the same transplant as my engine can get a proper repair efficienlty and permanently, and i have a complete 300TDi (engine,rad, in'tcooler, all ancillaries) + R380 box sitting on a pallet at my mechanic in Surrey and if of interest we can work out adeal.

As for identifying your unit, see the Ashcroft website: Ashcroft Transmissions
Hope this helps, G
 
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