Tyres rubbing on radius arms!!!

Lionhound · Nov 7, 2017

I once again throw myself at the feet of the paragons of wisdom and knowledge who make up the membership of this fine forum in the hope of gaining a modicum of your help...................too much?
Ok. Got myself a new (2000) 110 td5 12 seater SV. S'lovely, good condition, low miles, td5 refinement after the ultra reliable, bombproof but noisy and basic 300tdi.
Anyway, it wears some pretty alloys instead of the good old steel modulars I'm used to. Problem is, on full lock the tyres rub on the radius arms. Now, I may be old fashioned but in my day this was frowned upon.
Anyone tell me what to do please?
Spacers? If yes what width etc etc.
Thanks all.

neilly · Nov 7, 2017

You could set the lock stops so that it does not rub.

But you may find your steering lock is then the same as a battleship.

Cheers

Lionhound · Nov 7, 2017

Thanks Neilly but yeah, the battleship blows that out the water at the moment. (Hee hee) May be the only way but hoping theres another option.

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 7, 2017

adjust steering stops or change the wheels for a different offset.

Marmaduke · Nov 7, 2017

Or fit spacers

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 7, 2017

Marmaduke said:
Or fit spacers

not recomended

300bhp/ton · Nov 7, 2017

The Mad Hat Man said:
not recomended

Only ever said by people who don’t understand they achieve the exact same thing as running different offset wheels and cause no additional problems.

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 7, 2017

300bhp/ton said:
Only ever said by people who don’t understand they achieve the exact same thing as running different offset wheels and cause no additional problems.

ok. Not my bearings

or studs

300bhp/ton · Nov 7, 2017

The Mad Hat Man said:
ok. Not my bearings

And seriously what do you think a wider offset rim does???

It is exactly the same forces a spacer makes no odds or difference.

domderbyshire · Nov 7, 2017

I had the same issue on my 90 when I fitted alloys and 235 section tyres. It was quickly and easily resolved by adjusting the lock stops. The turning circle is still good. Just remember the stop on the NS adjusts the wheel on the OF, and vice versa.

300bhp/ton · Nov 7, 2017

domderbyshire said:
I had the same issue on my 90 when I fitted alloys and 235 section tyres. It was quickly and easily resolved by adjusting the lock stops. The turning circle is still good. Just remember the stop on the NS adjusts the wheel on the OF, and vice versa.

A 110 has the turning circle of a battleship though. And honestly if you’ve driven a 90 with wider offset rims you can actually remove the lock stops completely. And by comparison one with stock alloys and lock stops will not have a good turning circle.

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 7, 2017

300bhp/ton said:
And seriously what do you think a wider offset rim does??? It is exactly the same forces a spacer makes no odds or difference.

its not what it does.... its how it does it.

300bhp/ton · Nov 7, 2017

The Mad Hat Man said:
its not what it does.... its how it does it.

Obviusoly logic, fact and common sense are not prevailing here. So be it. But for anyone else reading this. A spacer on the hub achieves exactly the same thing as a spaced wheel centre, ie a wide offset rim. The wheelbearings will not be able to tell any difference.

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 7, 2017

More than enough peeps have had sheared studs to make me think that it is not the best method of moving the inside edge of the wheel further out. This is why i would suggest adjusting the lockstops first and then consider different offset wheels. You do what you feel comfortable with.

Lionhound · Nov 7, 2017

Thanks MHM. Offset. Can't believe I never thought of that, simple now that I do think about it. Doh!!! Got another set of wheels in garage I think (Tyres may be a bit suspect) so I'll stick them on to check.

Lionhound · Nov 7, 2017

A bit torn though......offset? spacers? Hmm need to think hard on that one. (the alloys are pretty) Head or heart?

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 7, 2017

Lionhound said:
A bit torn though......offset? spacers? Hmm need to think hard on that one. (the alloys are pretty) Head or heart?

Try the steering stops first. Always try the easy things and K.I.S.S.

300bhp/ton · Nov 7, 2017

Lionhound said:
A bit torn though......offset? spacers? Hmm need to think hard on that one. (the alloys are pretty) Head or heart?

I think the alloys have worse offset than Defender steel rims and they are wider. Hence they produce this problem. I personally doubt a good set of wheel spacers will present any issues. And it’s not as if Land Rover haven’t fitted other wheel offsets on other models or even other markets.

300bhp/ton · Nov 7, 2017

The Mad Hat Man said:
More than enough peeps have had sheared studs to make me think that it is not the best method of moving the inside edge of the wheel further out. This is why i would suggest adjusting the lockstops first and then consider different offset wheels. You do what you feel comfortable with.

Can’t say sheared studs are something I’ve really come across before. Not saying it doesn’t happen. But I frequent enough forums and don’t recall seeing any such topics. And anyway such things would sound more like user error. Let’s face it the entire swivel is bolted to the axle. And using much smaller bolts. So it’s not as if the bolts can’t safely take the loading.

Lionhound · Nov 9, 2017

Thanks for all the replies. Have adjusted the steering stops for now, which has obviously worked. Will decide whether to stay this way or try the spacer optiion once I see how much of a difference its going to make when I'm reversing my trailer into some of the blooming tight places it needs to go!!

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