Turbo Failure

Pgups · Nov 24, 2013

Afternoon All,

I've just had to have the range brought home on the back of a flat bed truck.

I'm thinking its the turbo that's died. I pulled away at a round about and the turbo squealed like a pig and the power dropped. I eased off and then back on again and at that point my car filled the whole road with thick white smoke.

I pulled over and the smoke was coming out of the exhausts and I checked the oil level and its dropped to minimum so I guess the smoke was the oil dropping into the exhaust/Turbo system

I'm going to have a proper look in the day light tomorrow but was just wondering if I'm changing the turbo is there anything else worth changing or doing while I'm there?

2.0_hippo · Nov 24, 2013

Sounds like the turbo

Check the inter cooler pipes too for any splits

Change all the belts whilst your changing the turbo

Pgups · Nov 24, 2013

Yeah that's not a bad shout. I need to do the viscous fan as well.

Are there firms that recondition turbos?

I'm guessing it's not as simple as just buying a new one and bolting it on.

2.0_hippo · Nov 24, 2013

Pgups said:
Yeah that's not a bad shout. I need to do the viscous fan as well.

Are there firms that recondition turbos?

I'm guessing it's not as simple as just buying a new one and bolting it on.

There are company's that will sell you a refurbed unit and take yours back as part exchange

Otherwise a new one will cost megga £££

Don't think it's too much of a bad job to swap the turbos on the td6

Have a look on Rave, the workshop manual

wil2813 · Nov 24, 2013

could have been worse

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zx3qKX_Pno‎

gfromleeds · Nov 24, 2013

Yup turbo ive had one do exactly that! on a vectra though!
Thought id hit a cat at first looked in the rear view and couldn't see my own spoiler. Spun the car around and headed back to work (about 1/4 mile) same as you no power got it back to work and had the mechanic look at it and in that 1/4 mile it had used about a liter of oil

matt1987 · Nov 24, 2013

When ive replaced turbos ive removed the intercooler and flushed the oil out and the intercooler pipes. Drilled a small hole in the lowest point of the exhaust to get the excess oil out of the exhaust it also helps when driving it after the job is done by not bellowing smoke out of it ie 2mm to 3 mm hole will be fine. Oil and filter change as well, clean the turbo oil lines out and pre lube them and when the job is complete run engine up until warm then run it for a few mins at 1500rpm to check for oil leaks and exhaust smoke and if all is well take it for a gentle run for a short distance and then with each road test and cool down check for leaks etc and progressively longer runs until all oil is cleared from exhaust and all is well.

Pgups · Nov 24, 2013

Thanks for the advice. There's some good tips there.

Some of the YouTube videos are great. Luckily mine wasn't as epic as those.

Just googled and found a few different companies so I'll call around tomorrow for prices. Does the actuator need setting up on the TD6 engine? The recovery guy mentioned that some need adjusting for boost etc.

gfromleeds · Nov 24, 2013

If you really want to scare yourself youtube diesel runaway it happens when the turbo blows oil on the intake side and the engine runs on its own oil untill it blows up from over-rev or seizes from lack of oil

Pgups · Nov 24, 2013

Ha ha yeah I have seen that happen.

gfromleeds · Nov 24, 2013

Ok if you've got a manual cos you just stick it in top gear and dump clutch whilst pressing brake stalls it but if its a auto....your fecked

Pgups · Nov 24, 2013

It's an Auto!

I guess I could fit it and once it's back up and running I can drop it to a local garage for tuning.

sovereign · Nov 25, 2013

That Defender in the video, wouldn't be an automatic.
So surely all some one had to do was jump in, put in gear brakes on. clutch out, stall the engine?

Datatek · Nov 25, 2013

sovereign said:
That Defender in the video, wouldn't be an automatic.
So surely all some one had to do was jump in, put in gear brakes on. clutch out, stall the engine?

Ashcroft's do an auto conversion for the Defender.

sovereign · Nov 25, 2013

An automatic Defender

the horror.
Well if it's an auto your only hope is a powder fire extinguisher, shot into the air intake, to gum up everything.

Pgups · Nov 25, 2013

Or a CO2 one as it displaces the oxygen and the combustion process would then not be possible. You wouldn't have to clear out all the powder then.

Pgups · Nov 29, 2013

Found a turbo place in Essex today so once the turbo is off in the morning ill pop it over to them.

It's going to be repaired hopefully which starts at about £200 and can be anything up to £325 (+vat unless cash) for a full service and repair which basically replaces all parts and sand blasts the internal casings.

Fingers crossed its a cheaper fix but I'm expecting the higher amount.

wil2813 · Nov 29, 2013

Pgups said:
(+vat unless cash)

cash = no receipt, no receipt = no guarantee, no guarantee = pay again when it fails, tax & vat evasion = jail

Saint.V8 · Nov 29, 2013

wil2813 said:
cash = no receipt, no receipt = no guarantee, no guarantee = pay again when it fails, tax & vat evasion = jail

I was just about to say similar...pay your money, take your chance!

acc · Nov 29, 2013

Whereabouts in Essex?

I would steer clear of the cash only business, unless you like playing Russian roulette

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