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andydclements said:

For the reason of the braking requirements I found a second hand A frame with over-run braking. It works on the tow hitch just as a trailer with over-run brakes would, this then operates a cable. You run the cable through the partially opened driver's window, put a frame between the driver's seat and brake pedal, when the over-run is activated it presses the pedal. Better than a trailer in some circumstances, not as good in others.

Andy

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Yeah still not 100% as a car brakes need the servo to get full effect. it really is almost impossible to make an aframe towed car fully legal as a trailer. and you insurance will jump on this in the event of you're been involved in an accident.

Right i did risk it and towed the landy to the play and play with the daughters quad on the back of it.Directly i pulled out of our road got 200 yards and there he was...Traffic cop in layby SH#T!! Fortunatly he was looking at his radio or something and i slipped past.
I was already pooping it cos of that,and the icy road conditions on sunday made it worst.Got to my 2nd roundabout and the back end of the disco stepped out.Ok now i was even more nervous.Bearing in mind i have got a hgv licence and would like to think i can actually drive.
It happened again on the way home. Braking is slower and did feel like it was pushing the rear wheels sideways on tight corners. It was great on the straights.
So it's a No from me!
But i've been offered a braked steerable tow dolly for 150 quid and gonna go for that just cos at that price you cant say no.
And ive told my uncle that i won't be making him a dolly due to it being so risky. I could of had a bloody nasty accident.

landynutter said:

Right i did risk it and towed the landy to the play and play with the daughters quad on the back of it.Directly i pulled out of our road got 200 yards and there he was...Traffic cop in layby SH#T!! Fortunatly he was looking at his radio or something and i slipped past.
I was already pooping it cos of that,and the icy road conditions on sunday made it worst.Got to my 2nd roundabout and the back end of the disco stepped out.Ok now i was even more nervous.Bearing in mind i have got a hgv licence and would like to think i can actually drive.
It happened again on the way home. Braking is slower and did feel like it was pushing the rear wheels sideways on tight corners. It was great on the straights.
So it's a No from me!
But i've been offered a braked steerable tow dolly for 150 quid and gonna go for that just cos at that price you cant say no.
And ive told my uncle that i won't be making him a dolly due to it being so risky. I could of had a bloody nasty accident.

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Make sure you don't speed max speed 20mph or 40mph on motorway

Of course not wouldn't dream of it! No good me getting a trailer as hav'nt got the room.
It's more for when we go off roading at pay and play cos there not on our door step and if one of 3 or 4 of us bugger some thing we can get home with no worrys.It's always a concern getting home after trashing your motor all day.I wouldn't be bovvered towing that empty behind me just in case.Mind you i would un hitch it before driving on the course

Towing Landies with suspension lifts but without the castor angles in the steering being corrected, using an A-frame, could be a bit dodgy because the front wheels may not follow the tow vehicle as they should.

I towed home an eBay purchase which was an 88 SIII rolling chassis with bulkhead, 90 miles using a Peugeot 309 with an A-frame and it worked very well.

Mine has got the longer spring shackles.and its got big knobbly tyres on it prehaps that was preventing it.Still not gonna use it again.

Found this in National Trailer and Towing Association Ltd.

I have a motor home and want to tow a Fiat Seicento behind it using an A-frame. This car has a kerb weight under 750 kg so am I legal with this outfit? Sorry no is the answer. The law regards this as an unbraked trailer and you are allowed to tow up to 750 kg Gross Trailer Weight, not a car’s kerb weight. The figure you have to use is the car’s Gross Vehicle Weight or Maximum Permitted Weight. This is usually at least 300 - 400 kg more than the kerb weight. We have no knowledge of any car sold in the UK that has a GVW under 750 kg. The only vehicle we know that is completely legal to tow with an A-frame is the French Aixam small "car". This is a full four seater and details can be obtained from Aixam UK on 01926 886100. An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety.

hi lads, if you use a "A" frame then the towed vehicle should have brakes, so many people use a sliding ball coupling with a steel wire to the hand brake cable of the towed car . so the towed car effectively has overrun brakes..

but this could be trickey with a landy and could end in tears, build a trailer instead mel.

mewl20004 said:

hi lads, if you use a "A" frame then the towed vehicle should have brakes, so many people use a sliding ball coupling with a steel wire to the hand brake cable of the towed car . so the towed car effectively has overrun brakes..

but this could be trickey with a landy and could end in tears, build a trailer instead mel.

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Doesn't meet contruction & use regs anyway so would still be illegal.