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I've used the book system for EKA a few times in the last few days with my battery leads being on and off every day and it has worked fine for me. I take it the code you have has worked before? I have taken time to input the code to ensure the key returns to centre after every turn rather than rush it and on the last turn when the door unlocks I've put the key in the ignition and its cleared ok.


hi goodfella , ive tried about 5 times now but cos the alarm is armed , at the final turn of the key then light should stop flashing but doesnt and if i open door to put key in ignition alarm goes off much to the annoyance of my neighbours ive bin trying now since 6pm and still no further forward ????????? thanks for your help so far . nice to see some common sense from a fellow northener , lookin at the comments from others theyv'e obviously not got much goin for them probably have never even seen a p38 nevermind knowing what it is , quite sad really but i suppose theyv'e got to get their kicks somwhere ??????????? cheers mozz :):):)
 
hi goodfella , ive tried about 5 times now but cos the alarm is armed , at the final turn of the key then light should stop flashing but doesnt and if i open door to put key in ignition alarm goes off much to the annoyance of my neighbours ive bin trying now since 6pm and still no further forward ????????? thanks for your help so far . nice to see some common sense from a fellow northener , lookin at the comments from others theyv'e obviously not got much goin for them probably have never even seen a p38 nevermind knowing what it is , quite sad really but i suppose theyv'e got to get their kicks somwhere ??????????? cheers mozz :):):)

If you're after someone waving a magic wand and the batteries myseriously replacing themselves then yer in the wrong place. If however you read the drivel posts in the thread you will see that they came about after you were given a magic solution to get YOUR vehicle that I know nothing about up and running again.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The main thing that I have going for me is that my landy works. I even have spare remote fobs and spare batteries.:D:D:D
 
If You remove the 5 amp fuse in the engine fusebox for the battery back up sounder them that will stop you annoying your neighbours while you sort it out. Worked for me on sunday morning.
 
hi goodfella , ive tried about 5 times now but cos the alarm is armed , at the final turn of the key then light should stop flashing but doesnt and if i open door to put key in ignition alarm goes off much to the annoyance of my neighbours ive bin trying now since 6pm and still no further forward ????????? thanks for your help so far . nice to see some common sense from a fellow northener , lookin at the comments from others theyv'e obviously not got much goin for them probably have never even seen a p38 nevermind knowing what it is , quite sad really but i suppose theyv'e got to get their kicks somwhere ??????????? cheers mozz :):):)

had one, a w reg 2.5d hse, found it a bit too poncey and stuck up its` own arse so i got rid of it, although when i was locked out one night i managed to find all the information i needed on google and here, no problem.... it would seem i was right to get rid of it :D
 
hi goodfella , ive tried about 5 times now but cos the alarm is armed , at the final turn of the key then light should stop flashing but doesnt and if i open door to put key in ignition alarm goes off much to the annoyance of my neighbours ive bin trying now since 6pm and still no further forward ????????? thanks for your help so far . nice to see some common sense from a fellow northener , lookin at the comments from others theyv'e obviously not got much goin for them probably have never even seen a p38 nevermind knowing what it is , quite sad really but i suppose theyv'e got to get their kicks somwhere ??????????? cheers mozz :):):)

Hi there,
Here's an important piece of information which at least is nowhere in my manual: When you go to input the EKA code, before you start inputing the sequence, the key needs to be turned four times to lock - not just once as it would appear from reading the manual. You then input the code sequence and, on the last unlock, all doors should open and interior lights should come on. To be certain that the becm is actually picking up your code input, keep an eye on the instrument binnacle. A small light will flash for each turn of the key if everything is being done correctly.

Good luck!

Henrik
 
Hi there,
Here's an important piece of information which at least is nowhere in my manual: When you go to input the EKA code, before you start inputing the sequence, the key needs to be turned four times to lock - not just once as it would appear from reading the manual. You then input the code sequence and, on the last unlock, all doors should open and interior lights should come on. To be certain that the becm is actually picking up your code input, keep an eye on the instrument binnacle. A small light will flash for each turn of the key if everything is being done correctly.

Good luck!

Henrik
hi have tried repeatedly the correct way to no avail ..put new batteries in fob ,phoned main dealers not much help there ? and still locked out alarm wont switch off and dash showing engine imobilised . now totally confused ,,, any help or input common fellas im desperate ????? cheers
 
read this and see if it helps.

"Official Battery Replacement Procedure
When replacing the battery on 4.0/4.6 and later model Range Rovers, you should leave one of the doors open (preferably the drivers door) to prevent being locked out. This should prevent the locking system from automatically locking the vehicle and arming the alarm when the battery is being disconnected. Then, disconnect the battery negative lead first, and complete the replacement procedure normally. Afterwards, you need to put the key in the ignition to reset the alarm system and ignition transponder. You also need to key in the radio code to get it working again, and resynch the windows and sunroof. This procedure is described in the owners handbook. On the Mk III Range Rover, you even ave to reset the steering sensor after reconnecting the battery.

In Europe and other markets where passive immobilization is enabled (see alarm system page), the official battery disconnect procedure is to put the ignition key in, turn it to the on-position and back to off. You then have something like 10 seconds to disconnect the battery. If you don't follow this procedure, you will have to use the Emergency Key Access (EKA) method to get the engine started when you reconnect the battery. Kent Clarstroem reports that after many trials, he has found the best solution if you have not used the complete official procedure is to at least leave the key in the ignition. BUT, make sure you leave the drivers door open or you will be locked out! Also noteworthy is that if you do end up having to use the EKA procedure, close the bonnet/hood first. Otherwise, EKA will appear to work but the engine will stay immobilized!!

More details on the problems and pitfalls of the official battery changeover procedure for the 4.0/4.6 are posted on Andy Cunningham's P38 site at HTML REDIRECT.

Improved Unofficial Battery Replacement Procedure
To avoid having to mess with all the details and problems caused by disconnecting the old battery, especially if you catch the problem before power is lost completely, you can maintain power during the changeover by jumpering the cable clamps using wither the new battery or a spare, such as a jump starter pack. Marlon Patton first reported this ingenious procedure as follows:

"My battery was recently dead, and to avoid having to reset the codes I performed an experiment and it worked. I took another old battery and jumper cabled it to the range rover terminal clamps towards the back so I could still get to the terminal bolts. I had the new battery ready and took off the clamps and had a friend hold them by the cables so the jumpers were still attached. Then I lowered in the new battery and attached the terminals and it worked! I didn't have to reset the codes or even worse take it to the dealer and be charged $200 for a battery change."

Kevin Kelly came up with the same idea. When he got in his new Range Rover 4.6HSE at the airport recently he noticed that is cranked a little slower than normal. Picking up a new battery on the way home, he then reviewed the hazards and travail of using the official procedure and decided that it was a lot easier to just use his 12V jumper pack when changing the battery so he would not have to re-set anything or enter the radio code. The photo at right shows the jumper cables attached to the cable terminals of the old battery on Kevin's 4.6 HSE.

Note: In attaching or removing the jumper cables, there is a danger of a spark causing a fire by igniting gases from the old battery. This is why jump starting instructions always tell you to conect the ground last and somewhere away from the battery. You can minimize this risk if you are in a well ventilated area (you can also blow around the battery or spray comressed air if available). If your jumper battery pack has a switch in it as many do -- then you can connect it before switching it on. Otherwise, you might try using a spare jumper cable to connect to the negative battery terminal lead and make the final connection somewhere away from both batteries. As always, be careful and use these procedures at your own risk. "
 
hi have tried repeatedly the correct way to no avail ..put new batteries in fob ,phoned main dealers not much help there ? and still locked out alarm wont switch off and dash showing engine imobilised . now totally confused ,,, any help or input common fellas im desperate ????? cheers

OK. Have you made sure that all your doors are locked, handles pushed all the way in and bonnet closed before you start the code input? Is your dash blinking to aknowledge the code input? If it isn't, and everything is locked / closed, you might have a problem with the switches in your doorlock. In that case you will have to dismantle it and check the microswitch. A lot of people have had success just by cleaning this switch.

Come to think of it... Is "engine disabled" your message - no "enter EKA code" or "key code lockout"? If that's the case it would seem that you only need to resync your key fob. Have you tried locking the door whilst depressing the lock button, then unlocking whilst pressing the unlock button? This should sync your key and let you start her up.

If your doing everything right and it still won't sync and disable the alarm, you might need to hook it up to a syncmate (BeCM Sync Mate - Range Rover P38 Immobiliser Gems ECU on eBay (end time 27-Mar-11 14:02:04 BST)) or faultmate to reestablish communication between the becm and immobiliser. I've never had to do it myself, but it seems to be common enough - the fact that the syncmate even exists is a clear indicator of that! :D

Henrik
 
hi have tried repeatedly the correct way to no avail ..put new batteries in fob ,phoned main dealers not much help there ? and still locked out alarm wont switch off and dash showing engine imobilised . now totally confused ,,, any help or input common fellas im desperate ????? cheers

If you hadn't locked it out you could've tried moving your Rangie down the road 100yds. It works probably 7 out of 10 times.
 
:welcome2:eek:h well , rangie = momey money money:confused::confused::confused:
after all advice still couldn't sort it so put rangie on back of transporter took it up to emmotts of colne as advised by joe , fella turned up put my key in door turned it left then right opened door put key in ignition started up immediately:doh: then he plug computer into somewhere in passenger footwell , ( i still cant find it ???? ) cleared any faults . JOB DONE perfect :Di couldn't believe it ,,, cost me £ 150.00 all in incl transporter from mansfields recovery ,,had to pay both ways 39 miles e-way and i drove home in rangie working perfect .. costly exercise you might say ££££££££££ but i suppose thats the joy of owning a rangie ... many many thanks to all the crew at emmotts p.s. lovely brew from his nice new secretary ... cheers all MANCHESTER MOZZ :):):):)
 
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