TD5 ECU WIRING PIN OUT LIST FOR RED AND BLACK PLUGS

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KISSMYAURA said:
I have a pain in the butt recent problem, intermittent hunting or lumpy Idle.

Original fault was poor starting, so :

New injector seals ( discovered injector roller mis-aligned and scoring cam so fitted new cam and injector rockers)
New Glow plugs
New MAF MAP and ATS
EGR deleted 2 years ago
Now starts perfectly (half a turn), but appears to have developed this annoying & intermittent fault.

So I cured the starting problem, but trying seems I now have another problem!
To diagnose this fault I found a serious imbalance on two injectors, so replaced them as well.

The clutch spigot bearing does make a noise for around 60 seconds when first driving, but it has always done this.

Crank Position sensor?
DMF on the way out?
Clutch switch?
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Hello I’m new on here I am also having the same issue had the engine rebuilt after it melted number 1 piston due to over fuelling it’s he new injectors and Loom just put a engine harness on it and still the same missfire and white smoke and bad to start I’ve tried a different Ecu no different I’m out of ideas now
 
Martin winter said:
Hello I’m new on here I am also having the same issue had the engine rebuilt after it melted number 1 piston due to over fuelling it’s he new injectors and Loom just put a engine harness on it and still the same missfire and white smoke and bad to start I’ve tried a different Ecu no different I’m out of ideas now
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was that a new harness?
 
gstuart said:
hi mate

how u getting on with the wiring

mean to ask, where abouts in kent are u plse
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, not much further i am afraid.
hd a fiddle about with harness behind block and under air box.
Problem goes away if i remove the ATS SENSOR on the air box, as then ECU goes to default setting for atmospheric pressure.
So tested that, still had a little cough so had a good fiddle with harness behind block problem has gone for a while, but it will be back, so who knows maybe a wiring short somewhere etc.
i WILL get to he bottom of it but its too cold at the moment!
 
Martin winter said:
Hello I’m new on here I am also having the same issue had the engine rebuilt after it melted number 1 piston due to over fuelling it’s he new injectors and Loom just put a engine harness on it and still the same missfire and white smoke and bad to start I’ve tried a different Ecu no different I’m out of ideas now
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can you shar emore about history and what you have done so far, symptoms etc
 
KISSMYAURA said:
, not much further i am afraid.
hd a fiddle about with harness behind block and under air box.
Problem goes away if i remove the ATS SENSOR on the air box, as then ECU goes to default setting for atmospheric pressure.
So tested that, still had a little cough so had a good fiddle with harness behind block problem has gone for a while, but it will be back, so who knows maybe a wiring short somewhere etc.
i WILL get to he bottom of it but its too cold at the moment!
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blimey mate , know it can be frustrating

may i ask a daft question plse, was the ecu brand new, if not , would u happen to know if a remap has been added or did u program it urself

with the aid of a td5 wiring diagram , as it shows in them what colour wire goes to what pin of the ecu are u able to match it up , or have u still got stray wires

but as the engine is running i assume the wiring is all done

is the latest basically the engine is running rough

have u already done the test to see what ur fuel pump pressure is

tried running it with the fuel cap off



see ur not that far from me

thks
 
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gstuart said:
blimey mate , know it can be frustrating

may i ask a daft question plse, was the ecu brand new, if not , would u happen to know if a remap has been added or did u program it urself

with the aid of a td5 wiring diagram , as it shows in them what colour wire goes to what pin of the ecu are u able to match it up , or have u still got stray wires

but as the engine is running i assume the wiring is all done

is the latest basically the engine is running rough

have u already done the test to see what ur fuel pump pressure is

tried running it with the fuel cap off



see ur not that far from me

thks
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ecu is untouched, its not original but is from a 02 (mine is 03), has been running fine for 5 years no probs,
new fuel pump, fuel pressure is fine.
The crank sensor SRC ( signal return cable??) is bared as i said but other than that nothing obvious.
The loom from the ATS and MAF are notorious as are the one that crosses gearbox for chaffing so thats what I am lokking at next, i have given it a wiggle and its settled down again, but fault is intermittent so i want to create / cure and be sure thats the prob etc.

Why fuel cap off? can tank pressurise?
 
Does your temp gauge ever drop to the resting position when your lumpy idle occurs? I had an odd idle a few years ago pulled my hair out for a bit then changed the coolant temp sensor and problem sorted. Just an idea it helped me out at the time
 
Jay222 said:
Does your temp gauge ever drop to the resting position when your lumpy idle occurs? I had an odd idle a few years ago pulled my hair out for a bit then changed the coolant temp sensor and problem sorted. Just an idea it helped me out at the time
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cheers mate, not noticed that, but am changing the temp sensor anyway as have read it can cause probs,
 
Worth doing, 2 minute job and sorted mine out. Like you I had chased my tail in several directions first before trying that
 
KISSMYAURA said:
ecu is untouched, its not original but is from a 02 (mine is 03), has been running fine for 5 years no probs,
new fuel pump, fuel pressure is fine.
The crank sensor SRC ( signal return cable??) is bared as i said but other than that nothing obvious.
The loom from the ATS and MAF are notorious as are the one that crosses gearbox for chaffing so thats what I am lokking at next, i have given it a wiggle and its settled down again, but fault is intermittent so i want to create / cure and be sure thats the prob etc.

Why fuel cap off? can tank pressurise?
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thks, so if i’m reading it right , it’s the hunting that’s happening but not all the time

ref the duel cap, was just on the off chance is possibly a breather was blocked and an easy test that doesn’t cost u any money lol

that’s not much help is it, ;):D
 
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KISSMYAURA said:
no lumpy idle / misfire is intermittent
so i need it in fault to diagnose etc
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ah, i see apologises and see what u mean ref the diagnostics

are u able to set ur diagnostic to record live data and the wiggle the possible faulty looms

plse don’t throw a hammer at me, lol
 
gstuart said:
ah, i see apologises and see what u mean ref the diagnostics

are u able to set ur diagnostic to record live data and the wiggle the possible faulty looms

plse don’t throw a hammer at me, lol
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wish i had a diagnositc!! no nanocom here etc.
 
KISSMYAURA said:
wish i had a diagnositc!! no nanocom here etc.
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ah, i see, plus as urs is 2002 it’s a shame because it isn’t obd2 compliant

know i’ve got a elm 327 but alas ur system is too early , it just plugs into the port and use my via my ipad

see some have mentiaoned about the fox well disgnotics but at least if u bought a nanocom it will be curse be accurate
 
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