td4 transfer box broke

crafty carper · Oct 30, 2009

I have just had to have my transfer box renewed on my X reg Freelander Td4 as one of the gears inside broke up. I have been told that more tyre wear in the front than in the back can cause this due to the front wheels wanting to turn at a different speed than the rear wheels. Can this lead to the gear box breaking up?

Chaser · Oct 30, 2009

There's been lots of discussion on this, newest tyres to the rear, never the other way around or the IRD will be damaged.

crafty carper · Nov 1, 2009

could the same thing afect the dif as i had to have a new one of them a couple years ago and someone said the same that the wheels wanting to turn at different speeds nacks that up to.only i was thinking of putting new tyres on it all round to try to ballance it out so both front and back should then be turning at the same speed.

Chaser · Nov 1, 2009

crafty carper said:
could the same thing affect the dif as i had to have a new one of them a couple years ago and someone said the same that the wheels wanting to turn at different speeds nacks that up to.only i was thinking of putting new tyres on it all round to try to ballance it out so both front and back should then be turning at the same speed.

Absolutely, the same will happen to the rear diff. If you have been running the front tyres with MORE tread than the rears that will have increased the load on the drivetrain. The other way around will decrease the load. Four identical tyres is the recommended way and will be OK but I prefer to have part worns on the front as in my opinion it's better for reliability to reduce the load on the drivetrain as much as possible.

The design ratio in the IRD means even with identical tyres the wheels would turn at different speeds if it wasn't for the Vcu slipping to compensate.

crafty carper · Nov 1, 2009

cheers for that will try putting 2 new tyres on the back

Skynet · Nov 2, 2009

Hang on, CC said there was more tyre WEAR on the front than the back. Surely thats the same as newer tyres on the back! As the vehicle is primarily FWD (80%) there will always be more wear from the front?

Put rear tyres to the front and new ones on the back everytime.

Chaser · Nov 2, 2009

Skynet said:
Hang on, CC said there was more tyre WEAR on the front than the back. Surely thats the same as newer tyres on the back! As the vehicle is primarily FWD (80%) there will always be more wear from the front?

Put rear tyres to the front and new ones on the back everytime.

Your right and we do agree, I was assuming that as he had been told by someone that this was wrong he was going to, or already had been, running with them the other way. Sorry if it made confusing reading.

Skynet · Nov 2, 2009

I knew what was being said Chaser mate, but I also agree CC was originally told the wrong way around by his mechanic. I wanted to make sure that he understood that its fine to have the front tyre diameter LESS than the rear.

and re-reading what you wrote, thats exactly what you said in mechanic speak LOL

crafty carper · Nov 2, 2009

just to let you know i did understand to put the new tyres on the back and would like to thank you lads for giving me some good advise as i did not know which way round to do it. so many thanks again.

crafty

Harold 4x4 · Nov 2, 2009

Just to add to the tyre debate...

If you are unfortunate enough to suffer a flat tyre and have to use the spare then surely this is 'asking for trouble' too?

I had a lengthy conversation with a guy from Foleys of Roydon - he said they don't touch Freelanders if at all possible, and the last one they were asked to deal with was F**ked after 100 miles when using the spare wheel replacement after a puncture?

I'm sure there is a lot of scaremongering, and this Foleys story seems like yet another, but the Freelander set-up does seem to be a bit a hit 'n miss.

Is there a definitive answer to all this wheel malarkey? Or is it all part of the 'fun' of owning a Gaylander?

Chaser · Nov 2, 2009

Well all that's really necessary is that you follow the same rule regarding newest tyres to rear. So depending on the amount of tread on the spare you might have to move a wheel from elsewhere on the car rather than fit a new spare tyre to the front.

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