Freelander 1 TD4 metallic rattle from underneath

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chris1959

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Hi I have TD4 2003 5 door 110,000 miles. It has been fine for many miles. Last Thursday drove on gravel track for a couple of miles (a regular journey for me and up to now uneventful). When back on road I could hear a metallic, rhythmical rattle (not a knock, clonk or whine), pretty much constantly. Also there in neutral when moving. No noise when at rest. I am listening with drivers window open and it seems to come from underneath, somewhere in line with the rear doors but I am aware that trying to locate where sounds come from is difficult. It is present at low speed as well as normal road speed when going straight - no change in noise when cornering. It can be heard just reversing a few yards and then going forward a few yards on smooth ground. Got my wife to listen outside while doing this but she could not pin down the noise any better.
I have checked the following:
1. Exhaust, rubber hangers are a little worn but with a strong agitation by hand I can't reproduce the sound, I also tapped each section starting at CAT with a rubber mallet, no rattles.
I also checked for stones in the protection plate at either end of middle box - nothing there.
2. I looked at IRD heatshield (horizontal above IRD) seems firmly attached
3. propshaft, VCU and bearings look OK nothing obviously movable and rubber looks OK, I can't feel any obvious motion in any of the universal joints. I plan to change VCU and bearings next year at 120,000 miles (this was done at 63,000 so I will do again to avoid troubles) but this noise does not sound indicative of VCU issues.
4. Checked front and rear brakes for stones - seems OK
5. Removed Engine undertray and removed a small screw that had fallen there but it wasn't the cause of the problem. Undertray is firmly in place and secure.
6. General look at underneath looks OK
7. Engine compartment bulkhead does not seem to have anything loose on it (pipes etc are well located)

The nature of the noise makes it seem impossible that I can't see where its coming from but I can't.
Can anyone shed any light on possibilities?
 
Gravel in the brake drums??
Sommat loose or fallen into exhaust pipe or silencer?
Hate noises like that. I bought a 6 microphone (on clips) with switchable amp and headphones to help with annoying noises. Just position and drive then click switch for loudest and see which mic it is.
 
Could be gravel in the tyre tread, although normally it would work it's way out. To test drive on grass.
 
Hi I have TD4 2003 5 door 110,000 miles. It has been fine for many miles. Last Thursday drove on gravel track for a couple of miles (a regular journey for me and up to now uneventful). When back on road I could hear a metallic, rhythmical rattle (not a knock, clonk or whine), pretty much constantly. Also there in neutral when moving. No noise when at rest. I am listening with drivers window open and it seems to come from underneath, somewhere in line with the rear doors but I am aware that trying to locate where sounds come from is difficult. It is present at low speed as well as normal road speed when going straight - no change in noise when cornering. It can be heard just reversing a few yards and then going forward a few yards on smooth ground. Got my wife to listen outside while doing this but she could not pin down the noise any better.
I have checked the following:
1. Exhaust, rubber hangers are a little worn but with a strong agitation by hand I can't reproduce the sound, I also tapped each section starting at CAT with a rubber mallet, no rattles.
I also checked for stones in the protection plate at either end of middle box - nothing there.
2. I looked at IRD heatshield (horizontal above IRD) seems firmly attached
3. propshaft, VCU and bearings look OK nothing obviously movable and rubber looks OK, I can't feel any obvious motion in any of the universal joints. I plan to change VCU and bearings next year at 120,000 miles (this was done at 63,000 so I will do again to avoid troubles) but this noise does not sound indicative of VCU issues.
4. Checked front and rear brakes for stones - seems OK
5. Removed Engine undertray and removed a small screw that had fallen there but it wasn't the cause of the problem. Undertray is firmly in place and secure.
6. General look at underneath looks OK
7. Engine compartment bulkhead does not seem to have anything loose on it (pipes etc are well located)

The nature of the noise makes it seem impossible that I can't see where its coming from but I can't.
Can anyone shed any light on possibilities?
Hi I have TD4 2003 5 door 110,000 miles. It has been fine for many miles. Last Thursday drove on gravel track for a couple of miles (a regular journey for me and up to now uneventful). When back on road I could hear a metallic, rhythmical rattle (not a knock, clonk or whine), pretty much constantly. Also there in neutral when moving. No noise when at rest. I am listening with drivers window open and it seems to come from underneath, somewhere in line with the rear doors but I am aware that trying to locate where sounds come from is difficult. It is present at low speed as well as normal road speed when going straight - no change in noise when cornering. It can be heard just reversing a few yards and then going forward a few yards on smooth ground. Got my wife to listen outside while doing this but she could not pin down the noise any better.
I have checked the following:
1. Exhaust, rubber hangers are a little worn but with a strong agitation by hand I can't reproduce the sound, I also tapped each section starting at CAT with a rubber mallet, no rattles.
I also checked for stones in the protection plate at either end of middle box - nothing there.
2. I looked at IRD heatshield (horizontal above IRD) seems firmly attached
3. propshaft, VCU and bearings look OK nothing obviously movable and rubber looks OK, I can't feel any obvious motion in any of the universal joints. I plan to change VCU and bearings next year at 120,000 miles (this was done at 63,000 so I will do again to avoid troubles) but this noise does not sound indicative of VCU issues.
4. Checked front and rear brakes for stones - seems OK
5. Removed Engine undertray and removed a small screw that had fallen there but it wasn't the cause of the problem. Undertray is firmly in place and secure.
6. General look at underneath looks OK
7. Engine compartment bulkhead does not seem to have anything loose on it (pipes etc are well located)

The nature of the noise makes it seem impossible that I can't see where its coming from but I can't.
Can anyone shed any light on possibilities?

I checked the brake drum on the drivers side - it was OK
Can't really see how a stone could defy gravity and go up the tailpipe and even then tapping the back box would surely make it rattle?
Off to local 4x4 specialist tomorrow to see what they make of it. The sound speeds up as you go faster so I suspect bearings on a UJ on on propshaft?
 
Have you checked the metal ring attached to the VCU ? i have know the rubber insert to fail.
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Maybe heat shield somewhere ?
 
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