Tax and things to pay

Sephirot90 · Feb 2, 2017

Greetings,
Probably this is not the right section, in case I'm apologizing anticipatly.
I would like to know all the tax and everything I need to pay in England for the possession of my Discovery TD5.
Here in Italy I'm paying 1200 euros at year for ensurance plus 300 euros at year for "bollo" a sort of property tax.
In the moment the car is not more on the Italian territory, this last one can be avoided.
I'm evaluating if keep my disco with Italian plate or switch when will be the moment.
Sorry for bad english.
Best regards

Turboman · Feb 2, 2017

Sephirot90 said:
Greetings,
Probably this is not the right section, in case I'm apologizing anticipatly.
I would like to know all the tax and everything I need to pay in England for the possession of my Discovery TD5.
Here in Italy I'm paying 1200 euros at year for ensurance plus 300 euros at year for "bollo" a sort of property tax.
In the moment the car is not more on the Italian territory, this last one can be avoided.
I'm evaluating if keep my disco with Italian plate or switch when will be the moment.
Sorry for bad english.
Best regards

Not sure where that should go, maybe @blue beasty can see what he thinks.

As far as I know, you can drive on Italian plates for a limited time on UK roads. Then you will need to apply to DVLA for British plates.

When you have done this, you will need to do the same things as British drivers.
You need insurance. Minimum third party, if your vehicle is of reasonable value, most have comprehensive insurance.
You also need an annual vehicle inspection known as the MOT test. It is supposed to ensure basic roadworthiness of your car.
And there is an annual payment to the government for using the roads. I think this will be £240 a year for your vehicle at this time.

Hope that helps, sorry I dont know more about the Italian side of things.

Marmaduke · Feb 2, 2017

Insurance premiums depend upon where you live, your age, value of the vehicle, is it modified and which way the wind is blowing

You can use the post office website to find a postcode for where you are looking at living, eBay will give you a rough idea of the value of your Disco and then just use a comparison website to give you a quote.

Sephirot90 · Feb 2, 2017

Ok, so
I will move in Bristol, I'm 26 and it's quite modified (heavyduty rear and front bumper, +2inches shock absorber, cat removed and 255/85 16 tires).
Just saying, in case someone is in my same situation

I'm not so practical with ebay and insurance company, would be great if someone tell me his situation, just for give myself an idea of the possible price of the insurance. Thank you so much!

Turboman · Feb 2, 2017

Sephirot90 said:
Ok, so
I will move in Bristol, I'm 26 and it's quite modified (heavyduty rear and front bumper, +2inches shock absorber, cat removed and 255/85 16 tires).
Just saying, in case someone is in my same situation

I'm not so practical with ebay and insurance company, would be great if someone tell me his situation, just for give myself an idea of the possible price of the insurance. Thank you so much!

26, modified vehicle, quite a high group even as standard. I dont think it is going to come cheap.

I am not sure, but I think you may need to get a catalyst for MOT now. Someone else may know more.

You could try a pm to Adrian Flux, they insure that sort of thing. And they are a forum sponsor, look in the insurance section you posted this in!

julianf · Feb 2, 2017

Insurance is just crazy money for younger people here now.

I purchased my 101 when i was about 22ish. Without any no claims, cover in the first year was £650. I think that was about 15yrs back.

I reckon a 22yr old with a 101 today would be looking at £thousands.

ovalandrover · Feb 2, 2017

Go to a comparison site like go compare or I select and put in your details for insurance.If your modified bumper is a heavy duty bull bar or even steel you might not be able to get a MOT.

Sephirot90 · Feb 3, 2017

ovalandrover said:
Go to a comparison site like go compare or I select and put in your details for insurance.If your modified bumper is a heavy duty bull bar or even steel you might not be able to get a MOT.

Oh crap!
So the heavy duty bumper from Britpart are " illegal"?
If you can do this favor for me, would be great...
So, better keep the Italian plate

Alan Crossley · Feb 3, 2017

Sephirot90 said:
Greetings,
Probably this is not the right section, in case I'm apologizing anticipatly.
I would like to know all the tax and everything I need to pay in England for the possession of my Discovery TD5.
Here in Italy I'm paying 1200 euros at year for ensurance plus 300 euros at year for "bollo" a sort of property tax.
In the moment the car is not more on the Italian territory, this last one can be avoided.
I'm evaluating if keep my disco with Italian plate or switch when will be the moment.
Sorry for bad english.
Best regards

No need to apologise for your English. You can not hear my Italian because it is so poor.

FlyingPete · Feb 3, 2017

Sephirot90 said:
So, better keep the Italian plate

You may run into trouble with this. If you're permanently resident in the UK, you're supposed to properly import the vehicle and get a UK registration. There are periodic crackdowns on migrants running round on foreign plates...

Sephirot90 · Feb 7, 2017

FlyingPete said:
You may run into trouble with this. If you're permanently resident in the UK, you're supposed to properly import the vehicle and get a UK registration. There are periodic crackdowns on migrants running round on foreign plates...

Oh, ok.
Because i've heard that if the vehicle go outside the UK, and then come back, it's a sort of "reset" that permits to keep the foreign plate.

Sephirot90 · Feb 7, 2017

ovalandrover said:
Go to a comparison site like go compare or I select and put in your details for insurance.If your modified bumper is a heavy duty bull bar or even steel you might not be able to get a MOT.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/bumper-legality.311299/#post-3924554

Turboman · Feb 7, 2017

Sephirot90 said:
Oh, ok.
Because i've heard that if the vehicle go outside the UK, and then come back, it's a sort of "reset" that permits to keep the foreign plate.

That may or may not be true, but if you are planning on living in the UK long term, I suggest you do the job properly, and get UK plates. I think you are supposed to get them if the vehicle will be here more than a year. And foreign plates may attract more attention from the police than UK ones.
And the same, and the insurance issues, applies to visible modifications.
Might be easier just to play it by the letter of the law until you are familiar with the UK system.

leeds · Feb 7, 2017

For a vehicle to be road legal in any country it has to be road legal in the country of vehicle registration. So for an Italian registered vehicle to be road legal in the UK it will have to be insured, taxed and be road safety worthy tested/MOT in Italy. This is for a vehicle to be temporary imported into the UK. Now insurance companies may have a limit of say 30 days per trip outside the country of origin.

Driving without motor insurance is a serious crime. In the event of a serious accident the police might look closely at any insurance policy in place and the insurance company will check carefully if their conditions have been adhered too. If the Italian insurance company has say a 30 day limit on any single trip abroad and your accident is on say day 33 they could declare your insurance void and police can prosecute you for driving without insurance.

Have a read of this

You can usually use a vehicle with foreign number plates without registering or taxing it in the UK if all of the following apply:

you’re visiting and don’t plan to live here

the vehicle is registered and taxed in its home country

you only use the vehicle for up to 6 months in total - this can be a single visit, or several shorter visits over 12 months

If you become a resident or stay for longer than 6 months you must register and tax your vehicle in the UK – follow the steps for importing a vehicle.

Brendan

Sephirot90 · Feb 8, 2017

leeds said:
For a vehicle to be road legal in any country it has to be road legal in the country of vehicle registration. So for an Italian registered vehicle to be road legal in the UK it will have to be insured, taxed and be road safety worthy tested/MOT in Italy. This is for a vehicle to be temporary imported into the UK. Now insurance companies may have a limit of say 30 days per trip outside the country of origin.

Driving without motor insurance is a serious crime. In the event of a serious accident the police might look closely at any insurance policy in place and the insurance company will check carefully if their conditions have been adhered too. If the Italian insurance company has say a 30 day limit on any single trip abroad and your accident is on say day 33 they could declare your insurance void and police can prosecute you for driving without insurance.

Have a read of this

Brendan

Ok, not really clear for me, but I've get the most.
Thank you so much!

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