Taking my 110 round France

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jaykingfunk

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6 months ago I bought my dream car, a J reg 110 county with over 200,000 miles on the clock!

Before I bought her I knew very little about fixing cars, I now know a lot more than I did! It's not unreliable but I have had to change quite a few things!

I'm thinking of going camping in France with the misses in August, looking at going over on the ferry and probably doing about 2000 miles'ish.

What I wanted to ask peoples advice on is, what do you think are the most important bits to get sorted before then?

I usually spend a bit each month doing bits and bobs at the weekends.
The major stuff I've had done by a trained mechanic is a new clutch and second hand box swap.

Thanks in advance, J.:)
 
Sorry I can't help with the car preparation - I get my garage to do all that - but do get yourself aquainted withe all the new driving lawa.

1. You must have a hiviz jacket IN THE CAR, not the boot as it has to be donned before you get out of the car. You will see many French people driving with the draped over the drivers seat back.

2. You must arry a forst aid kit.

3. Just about to become effective - you must carry a DIY breathelizer!!!!

4. Not sure if this is correct but it is rumoured that any satnav in the car must NOT be able to detect speed cameras. The country is littered with speed traps!!

Enjoy your trip. We go every year and really do have a great time - the dogs love it too.
 
Dont ya also have to carry a full spare set of lamps (bulbs are things that daffodils grow from)?

i heard this a while ago but not sure if its true...
 
Ah took warning triangle, spare bulb kit, first aid kit, a high viz vest each, fire extinguisher, those things ye stick on yer headlights to change beam and a GB sticker;)
 
If you're not going off roading, then just good preparation is all you need.
I would change all filters and engine oil, check all other levels, if petrol new spark plugs, if diesel it might be worth it to have the injectors removed, cleaned and refurbished.
New fan/ serpentine belt, and if you don't know when the cam-belt was last done, do that as well.
Check all ball joints and bushes, any sign of play, change them, they're cheap as chips. grease everything that has a grease nipple, propshaft joints, steering joints etc.
Make sure the spare wheel is first class, and you have the equipment to change it.
There's all the usual stuff, bulbs etc that has already been mentioned, but most of all, make sure that you have European recovery. Be aware that the "Big 3" recovery clubs will charge an arm & a leg for a weeks EU cover, so check with your insurance broker if you can't get it as an addition to your insurance.
I had been in the RAC for 27 years, they wanted £79 for 6 days cover for a 1991 LR 90 (this was 4 years ago, so it may have gone up) I enquired with my insurance (premium choice) and got full 12 months recovery for £49 including EU cover. As the RAC cover was about to finish anyway, I just went with the cover via the insurance and didn't renew with the RAC (didn't need it either)
 
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And if you break down ! .......... no towing on the motorway....no towing with a rope ect. it must be a solid bar!!! as for the DIY breathalyser kit its not true...;) or the satnav thing
 
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Good servicing and maintenance beforehand, spares as already mentioned (make sure you know how to fit them too..). Do a bit of route planning checking on toll roads v normal roads. Tolls are not to expensive for the advantage of fast travel and the service stations are pretty good too.

Recovery firms will quote stupid money for short term cover as already said, also be aware that they tend to work on a "book valuation" to see if it's worth repatriating vehicles if they can't be sorted easily. I know one or two folk who've been caught out on this with older vans in Europe - "its an old van sir, we're not paying to take it back to UK" type of replies.

German recovery company ADAC used to do a decent deal and be a lot cheaper for 12 months membership than a couple of weeks from RAC etc but I think they too are now a bit iffy on the repatriation side of things - have a Google (they do have an English website too

Other than that, France is great for driving round, except Paris! Where are you thinking of heading?
 
And if you break down ! .......... no towing on the motorway....no towing with a rope ect. it must be a solid bar!!! as for the DIY breathalyser kit its not true...;) or the satnav thing


I do hope you are correct BUT have a read of the following 2012 Regulations for Driving in France:-

Tougher Road Traffic Laws in France

01 January 2012










Description:

New measures and tougher penalties come into force this week


A decree containing a number of miscellaneous provisions affecting French road traffic law will be published this week bringing into force a series of tougher measures applying to drivers on French roads.

• End of the road for radar warning devices

Equipment which detects a radar signal has always been banned in France but the new laws take matters a step further by banning ‘driver aids’ which incorporate data giving a warning of where speed cameras are located. Arguably, this information is already in the public domain with Michelin maps, for example, posting details of fixed radar positions but in the face of opposition both from motorists’ organisations and satnav manufacturers, the French government has decided to press ahead with this measure.
Already, some manufacturers of satnav equipment have taken the lead by stopping the inclusion of data on speed traps in new equipment but, for users of existing equipment, compliance with the new law will depend on whether they bother to connect up with a manufacturer’s website for a software update to remove what will become the prohibited software. For the police, enforcing the new law will not be an easy task particularly as many vehicles now come with embedded software systems which the non-technologically inclined driver may find difficult to disengage.

Nonetheless, the penalty for the new offence is steep – a fine of up to 1500 € and the loss of up to 6 points on a driver’s licence.

• Using a telephone while driving – fine increased

Up till now, the fine for using a mobile whilst driving in France had been set at what had almost become a nominal 35 € and loss of 2 points on a French licence. From this week, the penalty for using a mobile phone whilst driving in France will go up to 135 € with the loss of 3 points.

• Watch a movie while driving

There have been sporadic reports from police in the South of France that lorry drivers, particularly foreign ones, watching movies whilst driving had become a particular concern. Drivers caught watching a movie whilst at the wheel will now face a fine of 1500 €, instead of the present tariff of 135 €. In addition, either 2 or 3 points will be deducted from a driver’s licence and any audio-visual equipment used will be confiscated.

• Straying on to the hard shoulder on autoroutes

The principal cause of drivers straying on to the hard shoulder is driver fatigue and up till now, straying temporarily into the emergency lane on autoroutes in France was not an offence. Under pressure from autoroute companies anxious for the safety of their workforces, the French government has introduced a new offence, effectively of clipping the hard shoulder, for which the penalty will be 135 €. Also, the existing fine for driving on the hard shoulder on French autoroutes increases from 35 € to 135 €.

• New laws for motorcyclists on French roads

The decree also covers the requirement for motorcyclists riding a motor-bike with an engine capacity exceeding 125 c.c. to wear a reflective garment. The French Department of Transport has still to define the criteria for reflective garments and the measure compelling motor-cyclists on French roads to wear something hi-viz will not come into effect before 1st January 2013. In the case of non-compliance, the offender would be liable to a fine of 68 € with a 2 point licence deduction.

There is also an alteration to the law concerning non-conforming number plates which applies to all road-users but especially bikers. The penalty for driving with a non-conforming plate increases from 68 € to 135 €. The Ministry of Transport will also introduce a new regulation concerning the size of registration plates carried by motor-bikes with the aim of making motor bikes more identifiable, especially if flashed by a speed camera.

• Alcolock

Local authorities have already begun to introduce on-board driver’s breath testing equipment on French school buses and as we reported earlier on 1st December 2011 ‘France heads towards mandatory in-car breathalysers’, such equipment will become mandatory in all vehicles.

• Magistrates to have direct access to French National Drivers’ Database

This procedural measure should allow magistrates to better dispose of road traffic cases coming before them. Up till now, a magistrate had to make individual application for a driver’s previous convictions and points deducted history. Sometimes, if the necessary information was not forthcoming timeously, the offender could face a lesser penalty than would otherwise have been the case. Under the new procedure, magistrates should, in theory, have a driver’s history and previous convictions ‘at their fingertips’.
 
I do hope you are correct BUT have a read of the following 2012 Regulations for Driving in France:-

Tougher Road Traffic Laws in France

01 January 2012










Description:

New measures and tougher penalties come into force this week


A decree containing a number of miscellaneous provisions affecting French road traffic law will be published this week bringing into force a series of tougher measures applying to drivers on French roads.

• End of the road for radar warning devices

Equipment which detects a radar signal has always been banned in France but the new laws take matters a step further by banning ‘driver aids’ which incorporate data giving a warning of where speed cameras are located. Arguably, this information is already in the public domain with Michelin maps, for example, posting details of fixed radar positions but in the face of opposition both from motorists’ organisations and satnav manufacturers, the French government has decided to press ahead with this measure.
Already, some manufacturers of satnav equipment have taken the lead by stopping the inclusion of data on speed traps in new equipment but, for users of existing equipment, compliance with the new law will depend on whether they bother to connect up with a manufacturer’s website for a software update to remove what will become the prohibited software. For the police, enforcing the new law will not be an easy task particularly as many vehicles now come with embedded software systems which the non-technologically inclined driver may find difficult to disengage.

Nonetheless, the penalty for the new offence is steep – a fine of up to 1500 € and the loss of up to 6 points on a driver’s licence.

• Using a telephone while driving – fine increased

Up till now, the fine for using a mobile whilst driving in France had been set at what had almost become a nominal 35 € and loss of 2 points on a French licence. From this week, the penalty for using a mobile phone whilst driving in France will go up to 135 € with the loss of 3 points.

• Watch a movie while driving

There have been sporadic reports from police in the South of France that lorry drivers, particularly foreign ones, watching movies whilst driving had become a particular concern. Drivers caught watching a movie whilst at the wheel will now face a fine of 1500 €, instead of the present tariff of 135 €. In addition, either 2 or 3 points will be deducted from a driver’s licence and any audio-visual equipment used will be confiscated.

• Straying on to the hard shoulder on autoroutes

The principal cause of drivers straying on to the hard shoulder is driver fatigue and up till now, straying temporarily into the emergency lane on autoroutes in France was not an offence. Under pressure from autoroute companies anxious for the safety of their workforces, the French government has introduced a new offence, effectively of clipping the hard shoulder, for which the penalty will be 135 €. Also, the existing fine for driving on the hard shoulder on French autoroutes increases from 35 € to 135 €.

• New laws for motorcyclists on French roads

The decree also covers the requirement for motorcyclists riding a motor-bike with an engine capacity exceeding 125 c.c. to wear a reflective garment. The French Department of Transport has still to define the criteria for reflective garments and the measure compelling motor-cyclists on French roads to wear something hi-viz will not come into effect before 1st January 2013. In the case of non-compliance, the offender would be liable to a fine of 68 € with a 2 point licence deduction.

There is also an alteration to the law concerning non-conforming number plates which applies to all road-users but especially bikers. The penalty for driving with a non-conforming plate increases from 68 € to 135 €. The Ministry of Transport will also introduce a new regulation concerning the size of registration plates carried by motor-bikes with the aim of making motor bikes more identifiable, especially if flashed by a speed camera.

• Alcolock

Local authorities have already begun to introduce on-board driver’s breath testing equipment on French school buses and as we reported earlier on 1st December 2011 ‘France heads towards mandatory in-car breathalysers’, such equipment will become mandatory in all vehicles.

• Magistrates to have direct access to French National Drivers’ Database

This procedural measure should allow magistrates to better dispose of road traffic cases coming before them. Up till now, a magistrate had to make individual application for a driver’s previous convictions and points deducted history. Sometimes, if the necessary information was not forthcoming timeously, the offender could face a lesser penalty than would otherwise have been the case. Under the new procedure, magistrates should, in theory, have a driver’s history and previous convictions ‘at their fingertips’.
just spoke to good mate of mine here in france who just happens to be a traffic cop ! Alcolock is fitted to all NEW school buses very few are actualy in use. ok. the idea of ones for cars are along way off being law! and then they will be factory fitted ie imobiliser........ the idea you have about having to carry a kit in your car is wrong altho my mate had a good laugh......:D
 
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just spoke to good mate of mine here in france who just happens to be a traffic cop ! Alcolock is fitted to all NEW school buses very few are actualy in use. ok. the idea of ones for cars are along way off being law! and then they will be factory fitted ie imobiliser........ the idea you have about having to carry a kit in your car is wrong altho my mate had a good laugh......:D

Many thanks for that update. I did think it was a rather nutty idea but it was Fr.....! The 'idea' of a DIY kit was not mine, it was given out on a radio programme and made me jump in horror when I heard it.

What about the satnav speed camera detectors???? I don't speed and do not need to be told where cameras are but my satnav does tell me. I find the satnav particularly useful in towns, especially trying to negotiate one-way systems, but not nec. on open roads as a paper map is better. This, too, was announced in the same radio programme.
 
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surely french plod pull yer they say "doze ure sat nav hav ze speeed cameeras?"
"No it broke froggy. Ill be on me way"
 
Back OT your car cant tell whether its a motorway or an autoroute , so if it doesnt break down very often here its unlikely it will do so in France JMHO
 
we went 2 years back great fun

but get some sort of recovery policy aa did 2 weeks for me £130ish back to my choice of garage

cheap if it all goes tits up
 
Went to Switzerland last year. Whats been mentioned so far is all good......

I fitted new vented/grooved/drilled discs refurbed calipiers with spacers for the vented discs and mintex pads, needed discs and pads anyway and thought as I was heading for the swiss high passes better to have decent brakes. No need to go to that extreme but you wouldn't want your brakes to wear out while your away for the sake of the price of a set of pads :)


I also changed all the wheel bearings. £50 gets you a complete set. Did them simply for peace of mind. :)

Couple of spares and some tools with me + cable ties/duck tape/wire etc.....
(second hand, had them in the shed)
Lift pump
Alternator
Water pump
Intercooler hoses.

Roughly 5000m miles...
Only problem, blew a hole in an intercooler hose on the German autobahn after miles and miles at full boost. Stopped in a layby and changed it.

No breakdown cover!!! Tried a few and not intrested as too old. A 89 F reg, 110 converted to a 300 tdi.

Oh and the bastid gestapo got me for speeding in Austria about 1/2 mile from the German border. If I had know the border was so near I'd have made a dash for it...anyway stopped...

cop:
you were speeding (no gun or ****all to prove it) Driving Licence.

me;
no I wasn't ( lies...:p about 10 Km above, same as the Austrian car in from of me that was holding me up)

cop;
I no speeky english....25 euro

me;
I wasnt speeding, do you have proof

cop;
I no speeky english....25 euro

Thought better of arguing...he has a gun!! Gave him the 25 euro, got a reciept and vowed never to return to Austria ever again
 
Thanks for all of the advice folks!

Didn't realise there were so many strict driving laws over there. The speed camera sat nav thing is a bit crap too, not like I speed massively as it cost me too much in diesel but it'll be a ball ache to get the software sorted.

Looks like I've got a bit of work to do to her before August! Most of what people have said is what I've already got on my never ending list of 'landy jobs' anyhow.

Not really planned a route yet but I will do before hand, probably based on which campsites we stay at. We usually stay 2 or 3 nights max and then move on. Looking at going over on the tunnel and heading south.

Cheers, J.
 
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