Suspension advice

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19_Hue_95

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Advice needed, and yes I have used the search function before someone says it! I am having some welding work done on my 110 station wagon chassis which will require the springs and shocks to be removed, both are pretty cruddy and I can see in a year or so they will need replacing so I am getting them changed at the same time as the chassis is done – two birds one stone and all that.

My problem is what do I put back on? The current set up (as far as I am aware) are genuine landrover springs and shocks (I think they are the original ones!?) and it rides pretty nice. I was all set up to just replace them with these again.

But over Christmas I have fitted a MDF draw system in the back which is a heavy weight, I measured the height before the draw and after the draw and on the face of it the draw made no difference to the height, bearing in mind I was on my parents wobbly driveway so the measurements were different on every wheel anyway!

Having said that, the rest of the landrover was empty, I plan in the future to turn it slowly into a ‘part time over-lander’ so will eventually have a fair few bits in the back – couple of jerry cans, side awning, tents, camping stuff… you get the idea. It’s not going to be heavily laden so to speak but has the potential to be ‘fairly heavy’.

Over the last few days / weeks I have pretty much gone through every option I can think of and come down to the following three ideas:

1) Keep standard springs and shocks and hope for the best – I think it should be okay, but I am very conscious of sagging with the load.

2) Upgrade to genuine landrover heavy duty springs – Will keep a good solid height and deal with the load better, but as its not a super heavy load is it going to rattle my teeth out?

3) Suspension (+2?) lift – soft’ish ride but any increase in weigh has less of an impact due to the new higher ride (i.e. it might sag, but wont sag less than it would on original springs)

I was all set on 3, but I have come to realise that with it comes issues such as new angles of trailing arms et al, to get good quality it seems to be a requirement to spend a fortune, the issues that come with a lifted vehicle… so I think I will condemn this idea.

This leaves two options genuine standard as it is, or genuine heavy duty. I honestly don’t know what would be more suited. I think current weight wise I fall in between the two, but thinking ‘future wise’ the HD set would allow me to add winches and roof top tents….. but then is a less comftable ride and less off-road articulation a good price to pay for something that may or may not happen in the future?
 
Replace with standard 110 springs and dampers,you will see an improvement over your old one's For every day normal use it is the best. They were built to carry weight as standard.
Heavy duty only if fitting out as somthing like a mobile workshop that is loaded all the time.
I would not bother with a lift for what you want.
Rear springs can be changed quickly,an hour to do both so you could experiment.
 
Replace with standard 110 springs and dampers,you will see an improvement over your old one's For every day normal use it is the best. They were built to carry weight as standard.
Heavy duty only if fitting out as somthing like a mobile workshop that is loaded all the time.
I would not bother with a lift for what you want.
Rear springs can be changed quickly,an hour to do both so you could experiment.

Cheers Tottot, I think that is pretty much the answer I was looking for. The lift is certainly out, the main reason I want a lift is because… well it’s a lift. But the negatives of a lift far outweigh the positives, for my intended use anyway. My main concern is that for every day use the HD springs will be way to hard and only become useful a few times a year when it’s seriously loaded. It’s good to know that the standard springs can take a good chunk of weight, my concern has always been that they will sag under the weight – my car springs are awful for this
 
Definitly stick to standard over a lift or HD. Fit oem or genuine springs and shocks. Although if money is tight I can recommend the britpart shocks as being very good.
Don’t forget, if you are changing the shocks and springs, to get the other things you WILL need such as turret rings and potentially turrets, spring retaining plates and possibly spring seats as well.
 
What year is yours? Does it have self levelling Boge unit fitted?

I ask because my rear springs were busted, 92 110 CSW, and I replaced with 110 TD5 Springs and Britpart shocks. Cost was less than £80 for all of it. It rides much better, but I tow quite a bit and load the boot up too.
 
What year is yours? Does it have self levelling Boge unit fitted?

If it is fitted with one I would have thought the chance of it still working is very very slim. But I may be wrong. In which case the stiffer springs from the later model like you have fitted will be a better bet than the softer ones that originally paired with the self leveller.
 
If it is fitted with one I would have thought the chance of it still working is very very slim. But I may be wrong. In which case the stiffer springs from the later model like you have fitted will be a better bet than the softer ones that originally paired with the self leveller.
Eggsackery, I went to ‘modern’ progressive genuine springs when I finally needed to replace the soft springs (for the self-levelling system). Made a massive difference. I tow quite a lot and always have the Landy loaded and have never really noticed any sagging.
 
What year is yours? Does it have self levelling Boge unit fitted?

I ask because my rear springs were busted, 92 110 CSW, and I replaced with 110 TD5 Springs and Britpart shocks. Cost was less than £80 for all of it. It rides much better, but I tow quite a bit and load the boot up too.

I was looking at photos of those earlier, I dont think it does have one from when I have been pondering the meaning of life underneath... but then I was not looking for it. Mine is a 97 110 Station Wagon.

If it is fitted with one I would have thought the chance of it still working is very very slim. But I may be wrong. In which case the stiffer springs from the later model like you have fitted will be a better bet than the softer ones that originally paired with the self leveller.

So if mine dosent have the self leveler then is it still wise to put the softer springs on?
 
I was looking at photos of those earlier, I dont think it does have one from when I have been pondering the meaning of life underneath... but then I was not looking for it. Mine is a 97 110 Station Wagon.



So if mine dosent have the self leveler then is it still wise to put the softer springs on?

If you don’t have a self leveller, then you won’t have the “softest” springs. You would still fit “standard” springs though.

If you google “defender spring colour codes” a large spreadsheet will come up in images. Find the correct model that relates to your vehicle, and purchase the springs it advises. If you look at the part numbers, you should notice 2 different lengths, one for each side. I didn’t purchase these, I purchased 2 of the longer springs and fitted them to each side.
 
If it is fitted with one I would have thought the chance of it still working is very very slim. But I may be wrong. In which case the stiffer springs from the later model like you have fitted will be a better bet than the softer ones that originally paired with the self leveller.

I’m not certain if mine is still working, but it’s solid and I can’t press it down with physical force, however, I can make it move when it’s bolted back on. I assume it works, but assumption makes an ass....

Eggsackery, I went to ‘modern’ progressive genuine springs when I finally needed to replace the soft springs (for the self-levelling system). Made a massive difference. I tow quite a lot and always have the Landy loaded and have never really noticed any sagging.

I’m the same, and it’s because of statements like these that lead me to order the current setup. I have no problems with it at all, and very pleased I went with that setup. Highly recommended.
 
If you google “defender spring colour codes” a large spreadsheet will come up in images. Find the correct model that relates to your vehicle, and purchase the springs it advises. If you look at the part numbers, you should notice 2 different lengths, one for each side. I didn’t purchase these, I purchased 2 of the longer springs and fitted them to each side.

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Cheers all! I think I know what I am after now.
Its all a bit confusing! There is almost too much choice out there with mixed reviews on everything.

In the end this is what I have gone for:
Front Left - NRC8044 (white/white)
Front Right - NRC8045 (yellow/yellow)
Rear Left - RKB101111 (brown/purple)
Rear Right - RKB101111 (brown/purple)
And 4 OEM shocks all around.

The rear springs are the ones from the TD5 as I don't think my 300tdi has a load leveller.
This is a good page I found for all the different codes:
http://rovers.red90.ca/springinfo.html#OEM
 
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