I did.Myself and @Pillar had direct comms, offered our services and said our cut off time would be 2300 last night as we had a long drive, said we would get close and camp, then asses at first light, but he said others more local were going to help and told us to wait out
So we have an injury, 2 potentially dangerously stuck but recovered rescue vehicles and the original vehicle still in situ requiring a heavier method of recovery. The OP only joined to get recovered and asked for help on FB. Is it time to reconsider how we go about this? The location of this vehicle also begs a few questions.
Looks like a pretty silly place for someone inexperienced to go alone in an SUV. And possibly not on a legal ROW.
Even a local can be caught out by weather changes over a few days .... one of the reasons we say don't go alone .... even a twisted ankle can be life threatening in bad weather on your own ...
I thought he said he had permission to be on the track from the land owner ...
That is a slight exaggeration.So we have an injury, 2 potentially dangerously stuck but recovered rescue vehicles and the original vehicle still in situ requiring a heavier method of recovery. The OP only joined to get recovered and asked for help on FB. Is it time to reconsider how we go about this? The location of this vehicle also begs a few questions.
When you're stuck on a mountain, you need something with a bit of traction and a bit of power to get you and your mates out.
the problem is once youve invested time getting there and any action is public ,most will try and often take greater risks, theres mountain rescue for stranded indivduals ,and with a job like that a stuck car in a precarious position local farmers or professionalsThat is a slight exaggeration.
The injury is, I understand, an old one that was exacerbated by the attempted rescue.
The first rule of any rescue is NEVER put yourself in danger. We weren’t there, so cannot condemn.
Yes - the op joined to get recovered, but that is not unusual. I would say he came to the best place .
I asked for help on FB, not him.
The place in Q is not a ROW, but B.B. was assured he had permission; the police were informed and have chatted with the OP.
Latest update is that the OP has spoken to the owner, who has sad that land owner opposite has a JCB.
I am suggesting no further action be taken unless the OP specifically asks again, and a task force of at least 6 go. All with winches and other appropriate gear, including survival clothing.
Not always possible, but positive suggestions are always welcome.the problem is once youve invested time getting there and any action is public ,most will try and often take greater risks, theres mountain rescue for stranded indivduals ,and with a job like that a stuck car in a precarious position local farmers or professionals
perhaps ,but i dont think suggesting any members get involved in such situations is a good idea,Not always possible, but positive suggestions are always welcome
That is because you have always been against LZIR and never think that anyone else is capable or experienced enough.perhaps ,but i dont think suggesting any members get involved in such situations is a good idea,
We understand your position. I hope that you will still consider helping others when safe to do so. Always ensure your safety first.I was there last night a jcb is no good its verry slippy marsh bog and a drop to your rig ht as you try to come up the hill i nearly went over but managed with my mate paul a ground anchor and got up and u then winched the disco up. The guy must have been nuts. Really. Its total foolery. Ive not assesed the damage to my truck as for the tree damage. But it seemed he had a cheap soft roader. And lets have fun. Really puts others at rist. I will nit do this again. I dont fancy writing off a 10 to 15 grand landy for the sake of someone elses foolery.
No not an exaggeration at all. An injury is an injury, regardless of pre-existing conditions. This is a fair and reasonable summary. Permission or not you still got to wonder what they were doing there in that motor. I weren't bothered about the OP, but it starts to become a worry when established memebers off here get into trouble. Is this not a situation where the local farmer should have been contacted in the first place? Seing as its presumably farmland the farmer would be expected to have or know (and did) someone with suitable gear to get them out. This is not a criticism of LZIR, but the system is being abused.That is a slight exaggeration.
The injury is, I understand, an old one that was exacerbated by the attempted rescue.
The first rule of any rescue is NEVER put yourself in danger. We weren’t there, so cannot condemn.
Yes - the op joined to get recovered, but that is not unusual. I would say he came to the best place .
I asked for help on FB, not him.
The place in Q is not a ROW, but B.B. was assured he had permission; the police were informed and have chatted with the OP.
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