P38A Sport mode

kermit_rr · Feb 2, 2022

P38 Monkey said:
On a long journey, when stopping for fuel, a quick walk round the P38 and touch the wheels to check for over-heating brakes.

On any journey, you don't need an excuse to stop and check the coolant level/pressure

tomcat59alan · Feb 2, 2022

P38 Monkey said:
On a long journey, when stopping for fuel, a quick walk round the P38 and touch the wheels to check for over-heating brakes.

Marks heading for Liverpool so a walk round the car to make sure it still has wheels.

300bhp/ton · Feb 2, 2022

Datatek said:
That's worth doing on any car.

Not really. As

a) the will be sod all you can do about it
b) clearly isn't being suggested by someone who drives long distance everyday...

Henry_b · Feb 2, 2022

300bhp/ton said:
Is there a way to get it to Default to this when you start the car? I know on other makes you often buy something or mod a few wires to do similar things.

No.

And to be fair considering you have to move the selector to make the old P38 move i'd hazard giving the S button a prod isn't that much of an issue.

Henry_b · Feb 2, 2022

300bhp/ton said:
Curious, considering probably 99.8% of all automatics the world over are used like this. Do you have examples of failures or issues because of it? As said, I use the handbrake when the ground isn't level. But I've personally never ever heard a real world story of using only Park to cause a problem. And we've probably had 50-70 automatics over the years.

Mechanically using the pawl to hold the vehicle there is a risk of it failing, i've had a few in the shop with pawl related failures believe it or not.

Kind of the reason modern electronic handbrakes automatically come on when the ignition key is removed,

not rocket science.

even my 2005 S type has the feature.

Rubberknees · Feb 2, 2022

P38 Monkey said:
On a long journey, when stopping for fuel, a quick walk round the P38 and touch the wheels to check for over-heating brakes.

On a long journey first stop for me is the loo

DanClarke · Feb 2, 2022

If I put it in "Sport" mode I can probably get the reported MPG to shift from 11.5 to 10.2 around town. An incredible benefit.

kermit_rr · Feb 2, 2022

Is this in a petrol of diesel? When i select 's', you still have to hoof it to change down, it just drops 2 gears instead of one and holds that great longer.
I find it much more efficient to tickle the throttle to encourage a downshift and drive accordingly, most of the time

300bhp/ton · Feb 2, 2022

kermit_rr said:
Is this in a petrol of diesel? When i select 's', you still have to hoof it to change down, it just drops 2 gears instead of one and holds that great longer.
I find it much more efficient to tickle the throttle to encourage a downshift and drive accordingly, most of the time

4.6 V8 the diesel is a slug by comparison.

It runs ok in the normal mode, but there are some hills round here where it labours too low in the revs, then has to drop 2 gears instead of one just to maintain the speed limit. Or you have to provoke it with a large throttle input, but then hard to not exceed the speed limit. In sport mode you only need to flex your toe and it'll kick down 1 gear instead of two, but then allow you to easily stick at the speed limit. In this situation I'm sure sport would be more fuel efficient, not to mention just nicer to drive.

In general sport mode allows you to drive it on the throttle. Lift off and it'll upshift, so you don't need to see higher rpm than normal mode. But the entire vehicle is far more responsive for part throttle applications. Flat out wide open throttle, sport and normal mode are the same, they both run to the red line. It's the part throttle response that is so much more improved, letting it be in the right gear more of the time.

300bhp/ton · Feb 2, 2022

Henry_b said:
No.

And to be fair considering you have to move the selector to make the old P38 move i'd hazard giving the S button a prod isn't that much of an issue.

If things weren't an issue, it wouldn't be an AUTOMATIC in the first place..... QED.

Henry_b · Feb 2, 2022

300bhp/ton said:
If things weren't an issue, it wouldn't be an AUTOMATIC in the first place..... QED.

huh?

300bhp/ton · Feb 2, 2022

Henry_b said:
huh?

If someone is too lazy to change gear themselves, then surely extra button pushes are also a step too far.... (BTW - I much prefer manuals!)

Henry_b · Feb 2, 2022

300bhp/ton said:
If someone is too lazy to change gear themselves, then surely extra button pushes are also a step too far.... (BTW - I much prefer manuals!)

Hmm never understood the appeal of manuals, but i'd say that owning an auto doesn't make you lazy.

300bhp/ton · Feb 2, 2022

Henry_b said:
Hmm never understood the appeal of manuals

More fun, more engaging, more enjoyable and usually better economy.

kermit_rr · Feb 2, 2022

Not so much in a landy, but in a more agile car, having the gearbox change gear part way into a corner is most off-putting.
Lost the back end in the merc more than once!!

300bhp/ton · Feb 2, 2022

kermit_rr said:
Not so much in a landy, but in a more agile car, having the gearbox change gear part way into a corner is most off-putting.
Lost the back end in the merc more than once!!

Have to say I like a manual in a Land Rover too. We have a 3.9 litre V8 90 with a 5 speeder. But I find this with all cars pretty much. Years back we had a 3.6 manual XJ40 Jaguar, which was freaking awesome. So much better to drive than a 4.0 litre auto.

I also owned 2 x Camaro z28's. An auto and a manual. I sold the auto.

P38 Monkey · Feb 3, 2022

So relaxing to drive a big auto P38 that can go anywhere and do anything.
"I say Carruthers, we are hitting more and more people..."
"Yes, we must be getting near a town."

tomcat59alan · Feb 3, 2022

Henry_b said:
No.

And to be fair considering you have to move the selector to make the old P38 move i'd hazard giving the S button a prod isn't that much of an issue.

Unless the drivers a lazy cnut.

Datatek · Feb 3, 2022

300bhp/ton said:
4.6 V8 the diesel is a slug by comparison.

It runs ok in the normal mode, but there are some hills round here where it labours too low in the revs, then has to drop 2 gears instead of one just to maintain the speed limit. Or you have to provoke it with a large throttle input, but then hard to not exceed the speed limit. In sport mode you only need to flex your toe and it'll kick down 1 gear instead of two, but then allow you to easily stick at the speed limit. In this situation I'm sure sport would be more fuel efficient, not to mention just nicer to drive.

In general sport mode allows you to drive it on the throttle. Lift off and it'll upshift, so you don't need to see higher rpm than normal mode. But the entire vehicle is far more responsive for part throttle applications. Flat out wide open throttle, sport and normal mode are the same, they both run to the red line. It's the part throttle response that is so much more improved, letting it be in the right gear more of the time.

I just use the gear lever on hills to drop to third manually

300bhp/ton · Feb 3, 2022

Datatek said:
I just use the gear lever on hills to drop to third manually

In Sport mode there is no need to manually intervene though. Sort of defeats being an auto if you have to manually intervene. Also aren't you a diesel? Which to be fair will be driving differently to a V8.

BTW - I know Land Rover call it 'sport' mode. But it isn't for sporty driving. It just makes the throttle and kick down far less lazy. And could quite easily have been the normal mode. It just drives better in sport mode.

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